1 00:00:08,249 --> 00:00:06,420 we're here because we don't buy into the 2 00:00:10,140 --> 00:00:08,259 [\h__\h] of mainstream culture we're 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:10,150 tired of the mundane passionless careers 4 00:00:13,259 --> 00:00:11,650 we've been shuffled into as a result of 5 00:00:15,330 --> 00:00:13,269 this orchestrated debt based system of 6 00:00:16,950 --> 00:00:15,340 rule and the stranglehold on education 7 00:00:20,010 --> 00:00:16,960 entertainment by cold soulless 8 00:00:23,220 --> 00:00:20,020 corporations people yes we are 9 00:00:25,080 --> 00:00:23,230 frustrated yes we are tired and we 10 00:00:26,370 --> 00:00:25,090 reject the pre-approved tranquilizers 11 00:00:28,529 --> 00:00:26,380 that are Monday Night Football and a 12 00:00:30,779 --> 00:00:28,539 nice cold blood wager we have to stop 13 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:30,789 hiding stop hiding behind the headphone 14 00:00:34,710 --> 00:00:33,370 to the cherry popper 4/20 username let 15 00:00:37,170 --> 00:00:34,720 the world see that the resistance is 16 00:00:39,150 --> 00:00:37,180 strong and society is changing there was 17 00:00:41,819 --> 00:00:39,160 a time to be anonymous and that time has 18 00:00:43,770 --> 00:00:41,829 passed and so the higher side chats like 19 00:00:45,610 --> 00:00:43,780 to present conspiracies as the dawning 20 00:00:47,950 --> 00:00:45,620 of this new paradigm in 21 00:00:49,780 --> 00:00:47,960 the revolution because both fashion 22 00:00:51,930 --> 00:00:49,790 should be more than some celebrity Li 23 00:00:54,490 --> 00:00:51,940 Tresor Atlanta sleeping : 24 00:00:55,959 --> 00:00:54,500 conspiracies redefines bold fashion as 25 00:00:58,420 --> 00:00:55,969 having the balls to reject socially 26 00:01:01,950 --> 00:00:58,430 uncomfortable and unpopular truths from 27 00:01:04,630 --> 00:01:01,960 your radiant chest all [\h__\h] day 28 00:01:06,940 --> 00:01:04,640 conspiracies dotnet let them know that 29 00:01:43,630 --> 00:01:06,950 you know both designs for trouble times 30 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:45,890 how's it going higher side shatters from 31 00:01:49,970 --> 00:01:47,850 sunny San Diego drinking little drink 32 00:01:51,590 --> 00:01:49,980 smoking a little smoke on Greg Carl 33 00:01:53,540 --> 00:01:51,600 would and today is going to be a damn 34 00:01:55,580 --> 00:01:53,550 good show because we're going deep deep 35 00:01:56,990 --> 00:01:55,590 deep into conspiracy land to discuss 36 00:01:59,570 --> 00:01:57,000 some of the most far out sounding 37 00:02:02,300 --> 00:01:59,580 conspiracy staples out there involving 38 00:02:04,580 --> 00:02:02,310 time travel dimensional shifts and an 39 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:04,590 intergalactic DNA bank but we're 40 00:02:07,070 --> 00:02:06,090 definitely going to get weird today and 41 00:02:08,180 --> 00:02:07,080 that's the way I like it 42 00:02:09,859 --> 00:02:08,190 today's guest is one of the most 43 00:02:11,630 --> 00:02:09,869 qualified people on the circuit to be 44 00:02:13,310 --> 00:02:11,640 talking about secret government programs 45 00:02:14,990 --> 00:02:13,320 such as the Philadelphia Experiment the 46 00:02:16,580 --> 00:02:15,000 Montauk Project and the cover-up of a 47 00:02:17,180 --> 00:02:16,590 secret chamber beneath the Romanian 48 00:02:19,550 --> 00:02:17,190 Sphinx 49 00:02:21,620 --> 00:02:19,560 his name is Peter moon publisher and 50 00:02:23,660 --> 00:02:21,630 author of many books but probably best 51 00:02:24,980 --> 00:02:23,670 known for a trilogy disclosing the 52 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:24,990 details of the legendary secret 53 00:02:29,180 --> 00:02:27,330 government program known as the Montauk 54 00:02:31,250 --> 00:02:29,190 Project co-authored by the original 55 00:02:33,699 --> 00:02:31,260 Montauk Project whistleblower Preston 56 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:33,709 Nichols as well as a more recent series 57 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:35,970 revealing information about the strange 58 00:02:40,550 --> 00:02:37,890 contents of a secret chamber underground 59 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:40,560 in Romania which he co-authored with 60 00:02:44,330 --> 00:02:42,450 radio cinema who is a member of the 61 00:02:46,490 --> 00:02:44,340 Romanian intelligence services occult 62 00:02:48,979 --> 00:02:46,500 department and again an original source 63 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:48,989 for a fascinating story I'm for sure 64 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:51,570 super excited so let's get to it Peter 65 00:02:55,070 --> 00:02:54,090 my man how's it going I'm good thanks 66 00:02:57,410 --> 00:02:55,080 it's nice to be here 67 00:02:59,240 --> 00:02:57,420 absolutely man thanks for being here you 68 00:03:00,590 --> 00:02:59,250 have such a history with two of the 69 00:03:03,170 --> 00:03:00,600 wildest stories out there and I really 70 00:03:04,580 --> 00:03:03,180 want to let those be our 2 main subjects 71 00:03:06,740 --> 00:03:04,590 for the show let's start with the 72 00:03:08,870 --> 00:03:06,750 Montauk Project one of several supposed 73 00:03:10,670 --> 00:03:08,880 secret government programs experimenting 74 00:03:12,380 --> 00:03:10,680 with time travel as well as other weird 75 00:03:14,780 --> 00:03:12,390 stuff and this thread of info about 76 00:03:16,250 --> 00:03:14,790 time-travel experiments it really seems 77 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:16,260 to start with the Philadelphia 78 00:03:19,670 --> 00:03:18,330 Experiment another conspiracy staple 79 00:03:21,590 --> 00:03:19,680 that has many different versions and 80 00:03:23,090 --> 00:03:21,600 speculations but I know that you've 81 00:03:24,470 --> 00:03:23,100 looked into it and spoken about it quite 82 00:03:26,569 --> 00:03:24,480 a bit so maybe we should start there 83 00:03:27,770 --> 00:03:26,579 what would you consider the Philadelphia 84 00:03:28,820 --> 00:03:27,780 Experiment was that one of the first 85 00:03:31,100 --> 00:03:28,830 known inches inse to 86 00:03:34,910 --> 00:03:31,110 of such a project and what happened 87 00:03:37,430 --> 00:03:34,920 there whether or not it's a [\h__\h] it's 88 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:37,440 the first it's hard to say it's the 89 00:03:41,660 --> 00:03:39,770 first but it's certainly one of the most 90 00:03:44,030 --> 00:03:41,670 spectacular 91 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:44,040 you know like app if a patient had a 92 00:03:48,830 --> 00:03:45,930 stroke did he have many strokes before 93 00:03:53,150 --> 00:03:48,840 that many strokes many strokes but but 94 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:53,160 this was like a major gyration of the 95 00:04:00,290 --> 00:03:56,130 earth and it's very important that it 96 00:04:03,350 --> 00:04:00,300 occurred uh according to the lore in 97 00:04:06,350 --> 00:04:03,360 August of 1943 because there is a 98 00:04:08,930 --> 00:04:06,360 biorhythm which coincides with the so 99 00:04:12,199 --> 00:04:08,940 called birthday of Isis when the star 100 00:04:14,210 --> 00:04:12,209 Sirius is most direct it was the High 101 00:04:17,210 --> 00:04:14,220 Holy Days of ancient Egypt and and this 102 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:17,220 period of August is when the star system 103 00:04:22,009 --> 00:04:20,130 Sirius is right there closest to us is a 104 00:04:24,050 --> 00:04:22,019 very sacred day we're gonna make 105 00:04:26,510 --> 00:04:24,060 different traditions now this is when it 106 00:04:29,510 --> 00:04:26,520 occurred so it's called a biorhythm that 107 00:04:32,180 --> 00:04:29,520 occurs every year but there's a major 108 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:32,190 biorhythm every 20 years now this this 109 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:36,450 is a gyration of the earth so not an 110 00:04:40,970 --> 00:04:39,090 earthquake but sort of like an 111 00:04:43,790 --> 00:04:40,980 earthquake in some regions it's like the 112 00:04:48,140 --> 00:04:43,800 meridian like the meridian system of the 113 00:04:51,770 --> 00:04:48,150 human body moves from one channel to the 114 00:04:54,290 --> 00:04:51,780 next the heart feeds the liver the liver 115 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:54,300 feeds the heart etc so you have this 116 00:04:59,390 --> 00:04:56,490 cycles of energy moving through the 117 00:05:02,390 --> 00:04:59,400 earth and this was a big one so that's 118 00:05:04,159 --> 00:05:02,400 sort of an esoteric behind-the-scenes 119 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:04,169 explanation of what was going on on a 120 00:05:09,860 --> 00:05:07,410 purely energetic basis when we translate 121 00:05:12,860 --> 00:05:09,870 energy into the human condition in the 122 00:05:16,810 --> 00:05:12,870 human drama where every person is a 123 00:05:19,340 --> 00:05:16,820 player on the stage we have government 124 00:05:23,140 --> 00:05:19,350 different governments the German 125 00:05:26,990 --> 00:05:23,150 government the having a hand in it the 126 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:27,000 American government and the British 127 00:05:32,380 --> 00:05:29,490 would have been in there with all their 128 00:05:35,540 --> 00:05:32,390 secret departments which are being 129 00:05:38,150 --> 00:05:35,550 directed people don't when they look at 130 00:05:40,500 --> 00:05:38,160 world politics they like well you know 131 00:05:42,300 --> 00:05:40,510 obviously people will look at Obama and 132 00:05:43,710 --> 00:05:42,310 and the heads of state and then if they 133 00:05:45,690 --> 00:05:43,720 think they're going to get a little bit 134 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:45,700 deeper they'll go to build a builder 135 00:05:52,140 --> 00:05:48,610 burgers and the Bohemian Grove 136 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:52,150 sort of things but as I began to 137 00:05:56,100 --> 00:05:54,010 investigate this 138 00:05:59,660 --> 00:05:56,110 I had synchronicities with a cult 139 00:06:01,920 --> 00:05:59,670 phenomena and you had a occultist 140 00:06:03,930 --> 00:06:01,930 Aleister Crowley being one of them who 141 00:06:05,630 --> 00:06:03,940 turned up but he said something very 142 00:06:09,150 --> 00:06:05,640 interesting 143 00:06:11,490 --> 00:06:09,160 there are according to him you have this 144 00:06:15,450 --> 00:06:11,500 mj-12 stuff that everybody's pretty much 145 00:06:17,130 --> 00:06:15,460 sure what that is really an offshoot of 146 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:17,140 is what they call the secret Chiefs 147 00:06:25,530 --> 00:06:23,770 those those mj-12 people were that mean 148 00:06:27,150 --> 00:06:25,540 oh they are their puppets just as much 149 00:06:29,430 --> 00:06:27,160 as they were players they were at 150 00:06:32,190 --> 00:06:29,440 important positions but theythey the 151 00:06:34,230 --> 00:06:32,200 real the secret Chiefs the secret Chiefs 152 00:06:36,060 --> 00:06:34,240 they're called an occultism and these 153 00:06:39,390 --> 00:06:36,070 are invisible characters you're not 154 00:06:42,060 --> 00:06:39,400 going to get too much of a glimpse of of 155 00:06:43,350 --> 00:06:42,070 course and yes so this is this is what 156 00:06:45,890 --> 00:06:43,360 we're dealing on the world stage of the 157 00:06:48,890 --> 00:06:45,900 Philadelphia Experiment where you have 158 00:06:52,980 --> 00:06:48,900 experimentation with Radar 159 00:06:56,870 --> 00:06:52,990 experimentation with D gowing a ship so 160 00:06:59,160 --> 00:06:56,880 that it does not appear on radar screens 161 00:07:00,870 --> 00:06:59,170 changing the electromagnetic field and 162 00:07:05,490 --> 00:07:00,880 that's what the Philadelphia Experiment 163 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:05,500 was on the surface and then according to 164 00:07:09,900 --> 00:07:07,570 the the lore of what happened it 165 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:09,910 disappeared it disappeared and left this 166 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:14,370 dimension and the most important I guess 167 00:07:19,350 --> 00:07:17,410 evidence that they had was that the 168 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:19,360 damage that it did to the crew and the 169 00:07:25,500 --> 00:07:22,770 crew was compromised mentally physically 170 00:07:28,050 --> 00:07:25,510 sometimes catching on fire and what we 171 00:07:31,830 --> 00:07:28,060 know now is spontaneous combustion with 172 00:07:33,630 --> 00:07:31,840 term as that sometimes having their body 173 00:07:36,570 --> 00:07:33,640 parts amalgamated into the bulk head of 174 00:07:38,130 --> 00:07:36,580 the ship and just suffering sometimes it 175 00:07:41,190 --> 00:07:38,140 was just mental trauma these these 176 00:07:43,850 --> 00:07:41,200 people were brought to various about 177 00:07:46,380 --> 00:07:43,860 three naval hospitals one of them or 178 00:07:48,260 --> 00:07:46,390 military hospitals one of which was in 179 00:07:50,839 --> 00:07:48,270 Camp Upton Long Island which was a 180 00:07:54,139 --> 00:07:50,849 convalescent hospital during World War 181 00:07:58,089 --> 00:07:54,149 one and it it was right adjacent to the 182 00:08:01,129 --> 00:07:58,099 old Nazi compound compounding the 183 00:08:02,389 --> 00:08:01,139 complexity of the secret German 184 00:08:04,730 --> 00:08:02,399 involvement with a Philadelphia 185 00:08:06,169 --> 00:08:04,740 Experiment which is in a book called the 186 00:08:10,159 --> 00:08:06,179 Philadelphia Experiment murder that I 187 00:08:11,839 --> 00:08:10,169 published but the so you have this is 188 00:08:14,869 --> 00:08:11,849 you have a confluence of different 189 00:08:18,499 --> 00:08:14,879 events on a bigger global scale and then 190 00:08:20,779 --> 00:08:18,509 the conspiracy of the government files 191 00:08:23,509 --> 00:08:20,789 and what happens is all gets kind of 192 00:08:27,109 --> 00:08:23,519 shredded and all kind of disappears but 193 00:08:30,559 --> 00:08:27,119 what you have is the acting out of on a 194 00:08:32,719 --> 00:08:30,569 lower level some you know bizarre play 195 00:08:34,490 --> 00:08:32,729 where everything's secret but you do 196 00:08:36,170 --> 00:08:34,500 have experiments going on behind the 197 00:08:39,529 --> 00:08:36,180 scenes that are experimenting with human 198 00:08:40,939 --> 00:08:39,539 beings um this isn't a time when you 199 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:40,949 know we didn't have the abduction 200 00:08:46,189 --> 00:08:43,050 stories that are so prevalent today 201 00:08:50,420 --> 00:08:46,199 right you had this would be the 202 00:08:52,069 --> 00:08:50,430 precursor to that because any abductions 203 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:52,079 that were going on back then whether 204 00:08:58,249 --> 00:08:54,410 they were being done by organized crime 205 00:09:02,240 --> 00:08:58,259 or by military or secret government 206 00:09:04,490 --> 00:09:02,250 stuff if they seem to be very reduced in 207 00:09:07,550 --> 00:09:04,500 number to the reports we get today's so 208 00:09:09,650 --> 00:09:07,560 the reports were fewer it would seem 209 00:09:11,929 --> 00:09:09,660 that there was relatively little going 210 00:09:15,620 --> 00:09:11,939 on compared to today so you have this 211 00:09:17,269 --> 00:09:15,630 going on not so much in 43 but you have 212 00:09:19,879 --> 00:09:17,279 a study of these people who went into 213 00:09:21,620 --> 00:09:19,889 other dimensions and suffer greatly and 214 00:09:24,740 --> 00:09:21,630 this becomes a great human factor study 215 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:24,750 which takes place after the war in 216 00:09:29,030 --> 00:09:26,610 combination with the data that they 217 00:09:30,949 --> 00:09:29,040 studied from Josef Mengele who did all 218 00:09:34,970 --> 00:09:30,959 sorts of horrible experiments on human 219 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:34,980 beings including little people sometimes 220 00:09:39,429 --> 00:09:37,610 known as dwarves are midgets doing 221 00:09:42,590 --> 00:09:39,439 experiments on twins 222 00:09:45,019 --> 00:09:42,600 yeah the psychic energy of twins and all 223 00:09:47,689 --> 00:09:45,029 of this evolved into the human factor 224 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:47,699 study it at the old camp upton 225 00:09:52,579 --> 00:09:50,250 convalescent hospital which turn into 226 00:09:56,420 --> 00:09:52,589 Brookhaven National Laboratory was the 227 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:56,430 top security site in the East Coast if 228 00:10:00,500 --> 00:09:57,810 not the nation it was the headquarters 229 00:10:03,829 --> 00:10:00,510 of where atomic energy was being studied 230 00:10:04,540 --> 00:10:03,839 it was owned by associated universities 231 00:10:05,829 --> 00:10:04,550 which was a 232 00:10:10,930 --> 00:10:05,839 ozzie government group not actually a 233 00:10:14,860 --> 00:10:10,940 government group so it it was a very 234 00:10:18,570 --> 00:10:14,870 interesting confluence of events and out 235 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:18,580 of this human factor study at Brookhaven 236 00:10:24,519 --> 00:10:22,130 be get the Montauk Project but that 237 00:10:27,340 --> 00:10:24,529 early human factor study was engineered 238 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:27,350 by John von Neumann mm-hmm and he was 239 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:28,970 the engineer the Philadelphia Experiment 240 00:10:37,230 --> 00:10:32,810 who was also applying his studies of the 241 00:10:42,250 --> 00:10:40,540 electronics and computing to the human 242 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:42,260 mind he invented the first modern 243 00:10:51,220 --> 00:10:48,490 computer and that was being used to 244 00:10:53,410 --> 00:10:51,230 study the human mind and get inputs and 245 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:53,420 outputs on a computer right now this 246 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:55,010 type of experimentation has been 247 00:10:58,870 --> 00:10:56,810 verified in fact it's rather mundane 248 00:11:01,720 --> 00:10:58,880 you'll even see certain aspects of it on 249 00:11:04,449 --> 00:11:01,730 the PDS sometimes where you'll see pipe 250 00:11:06,790 --> 00:11:04,459 fighter flight simulation and even 251 00:11:09,329 --> 00:11:06,800 stealth craft pilots where they can 252 00:11:12,790 --> 00:11:09,339 actually move the ship by thinking 253 00:11:15,130 --> 00:11:12,800 Bioman manipulation so this is was the 254 00:11:18,610 --> 00:11:15,140 early parts of the studies and as that 255 00:11:22,660 --> 00:11:18,620 went forward they established a control 256 00:11:26,199 --> 00:11:22,670 of the human mind through through 257 00:11:29,079 --> 00:11:26,209 electronics and this scared the Congress 258 00:11:30,670 --> 00:11:29,089 which outlawed it you're not going to 259 00:11:33,519 --> 00:11:30,680 see this in the Congressional Record of 260 00:11:35,230 --> 00:11:33,529 course but you it then went underground 261 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:35,240 and ended up at Montauk Point New York 262 00:11:41,170 --> 00:11:38,450 in an in or about 1972 where really 263 00:11:44,079 --> 00:11:41,180 started going Montauk Point New York had 264 00:11:46,329 --> 00:11:44,089 an old Air Force Station Camp hero it's 265 00:11:48,130 --> 00:11:46,339 called it smelled to our history goes 266 00:11:50,530 --> 00:11:48,140 back to World War one is Camp Wyckoff 267 00:11:52,150 --> 00:11:50,540 but but camp hero has had a lot of 268 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:52,160 strange things associated with it 269 00:11:59,670 --> 00:11:56,890 forever in a day it's a strange place 270 00:12:03,880 --> 00:11:59,680 and it's not necessarily a safe place 271 00:12:06,699 --> 00:12:03,890 but it's now a state park where you can 272 00:12:11,310 --> 00:12:06,709 go out and visit it you couldn't when we 273 00:12:13,750 --> 00:12:11,320 began investigating it we turned the 274 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:13,760 applecart upside down here what we 275 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:15,050 actually had 276 00:12:22,090 --> 00:12:19,490 a trial in town of East Hampton it was 277 00:12:26,079 --> 00:12:22,100 not me but Preston Nichols Duncan 278 00:12:28,690 --> 00:12:26,089 Cameron and another man mark who got 279 00:12:30,460 --> 00:12:28,700 involved in a trial because they were 280 00:12:33,220 --> 00:12:30,470 ticketed on this ground and they'd chase 281 00:12:37,420 --> 00:12:33,230 you off variant Lee in other words 282 00:12:39,819 --> 00:12:37,430 vehemently even violently they would 283 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:39,829 chase you off of that ground why it was 284 00:12:43,690 --> 00:12:41,810 a state park but they were using it for 285 00:12:46,660 --> 00:12:43,700 something so there was a trial which 286 00:12:48,819 --> 00:12:46,670 preston nichols was serving as his own 287 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:48,829 defense attorney and he actually won it 288 00:12:52,509 --> 00:12:51,050 was pretty funny really a transcript of 289 00:12:55,329 --> 00:12:52,519 the talk trials somewhere yes because 290 00:12:58,540 --> 00:12:55,339 the judge actually said to the radar 291 00:13:01,509 --> 00:12:58,550 operator but he was a radar operator 292 00:13:05,530 --> 00:13:01,519 actually was part please you know he 293 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:05,540 said why can't these people go this is a 294 00:13:09,819 --> 00:13:07,010 state park you're supposed to have 295 00:13:11,050 --> 00:13:09,829 one-third of it dedicated at least 296 00:13:12,940 --> 00:13:11,060 two-thirds of its dedicated to the 297 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:12,950 people they had confiscated much more 298 00:13:17,350 --> 00:13:14,930 why can't people go on there he says I 299 00:13:23,560 --> 00:13:17,360 walked my dog there so the judge 300 00:13:29,430 --> 00:13:23,570 actually ruled justly which is sometimes 301 00:13:31,930 --> 00:13:29,440 novel culture but he will just uh and it 302 00:13:33,670 --> 00:13:31,940 caused the precedent where Bernadette 303 00:13:36,790 --> 00:13:33,680 Castro who was at that time the parks 304 00:13:40,090 --> 00:13:36,800 commissioner actually purchased a copy 305 00:13:42,550 --> 00:13:40,100 of one of the videos that Preston 306 00:13:46,389 --> 00:13:42,560 Nichols sold through sky books and I 307 00:13:49,420 --> 00:13:46,399 actually sent her a UH a tape I sent her 308 00:13:53,710 --> 00:13:49,430 a tape which showed all this chicanery 309 00:13:56,949 --> 00:13:53,720 going on and she got Superfund money to 310 00:13:58,269 --> 00:13:56,959 clean up allegedly clean up the camp I'm 311 00:14:00,970 --> 00:13:58,279 not saying she would there's nothing 312 00:14:03,220 --> 00:14:00,980 wrong with what she did but she they had 313 00:14:05,110 --> 00:14:03,230 this very strange company the Parsons 314 00:14:06,699 --> 00:14:05,120 corporation come out from their 315 00:14:08,050 --> 00:14:06,709 headquarters from Pasadena they came out 316 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:08,060 and did a whole cleanup study of 317 00:14:12,460 --> 00:14:10,490 munitions and whatnot with the the 318 00:14:14,290 --> 00:14:12,470 government was that the army the Army 319 00:14:15,939 --> 00:14:14,300 Corps of Engineers and that was a whole 320 00:14:18,090 --> 00:14:15,949 fiasco they tried to hide a public 321 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:18,100 meeting which I was able to attend and 322 00:14:26,980 --> 00:14:20,690 this army guy was lying his pants off 323 00:14:28,570 --> 00:14:26,990 and and but anyway it was you know so 324 00:14:31,810 --> 00:14:28,580 anybody can go out there now 325 00:14:34,019 --> 00:14:31,820 right so this is uh of course they were 326 00:14:36,550 --> 00:14:34,029 doing experiments with the mind with 327 00:14:39,340 --> 00:14:36,560 eventually they were manifesting objects 328 00:14:42,269 --> 00:14:39,350 according to the stories manifesting 329 00:14:45,370 --> 00:14:42,279 objects because if you can manifest 330 00:14:47,590 --> 00:14:45,380 effect thoughts like there are reports 331 00:14:51,579 --> 00:14:47,600 of them changing the mood of people 332 00:14:54,220 --> 00:14:51,589 animals we not some video that shows 333 00:14:55,690 --> 00:14:54,230 strange animal behavior out there I even 334 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:55,700 saw an abducted deep we're not an 335 00:14:59,139 --> 00:14:57,290 abductor what we call a mutilated deer 336 00:15:00,220 --> 00:14:59,149 out there which was a classic mutilation 337 00:15:03,100 --> 00:15:00,230 of a deer that looked like had been 338 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:03,110 dumped from outer space or not 339 00:15:07,750 --> 00:15:04,610 I shouldn't say outer space I should say 340 00:15:09,730 --> 00:15:07,760 you know from a hundred yards you know a 341 00:15:13,630 --> 00:15:09,740 mile up it just went splat on the ground 342 00:15:15,790 --> 00:15:13,640 uh so doing strange things with you know 343 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:15,800 parts taken out of it I've heard some 344 00:15:19,870 --> 00:15:17,930 really bold claims I mean where our 345 00:15:22,030 --> 00:15:19,880 government has so much secrecy it really 346 00:15:23,980 --> 00:15:22,040 does leave the door open for some of 347 00:15:25,449 --> 00:15:23,990 these things that could be possible what 348 00:15:27,790 --> 00:15:25,459 happened with the montauk chair because 349 00:15:29,949 --> 00:15:27,800 that's kind of what this conspiracy kind 350 00:15:31,449 --> 00:15:29,959 of surrounds is this Montauk chair did 351 00:15:35,110 --> 00:15:31,459 it come from 352 00:15:38,139 --> 00:15:35,120 uh you have a crashed UFO no the Montauk 353 00:15:40,569 --> 00:15:38,149 chair is a you know the information we 354 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:40,579 have out I have about it is somewhat 355 00:15:44,620 --> 00:15:42,410 abstract particularly the procuring of 356 00:15:46,930 --> 00:15:44,630 it like I knew the man who claimed to 357 00:15:49,810 --> 00:15:46,940 have procured it and how he came into my 358 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:49,820 life was very bizarre and but you know 359 00:15:54,100 --> 00:15:52,010 there's tangential ties to you that he 360 00:15:56,110 --> 00:15:54,110 worked he used to operate a portfolio 361 00:15:58,269 --> 00:15:56,120 name was George dicks and he's passed 362 00:16:02,170 --> 00:15:58,279 away last summer I wouldn't even mention 363 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:02,180 it and he he never wanted this broadcast 364 00:16:07,780 --> 00:16:06,170 publicly but I met him and we're Duncan 365 00:16:09,250 --> 00:16:07,790 impressed and heard the story about that 366 00:16:11,500 --> 00:16:09,260 I told him about it they were shocked 367 00:16:12,850 --> 00:16:11,510 not because they hadn't heard of it but 368 00:16:14,980 --> 00:16:12,860 that he'd ever told anybody he was 369 00:16:17,410 --> 00:16:14,990 always very secret it was just between 370 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:17,420 the three of them and he told me because 371 00:16:22,510 --> 00:16:19,250 I was putting the book together and he 372 00:16:24,699 --> 00:16:22,520 wanted me to know it and he had strange 373 00:16:30,910 --> 00:16:24,709 financial connections and you know he 374 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:30,920 was a very unusual guy and so there was 375 00:16:34,900 --> 00:16:32,690 a lot of strange tentacles of people 376 00:16:39,519 --> 00:16:34,910 that I met behind the scenes but the 377 00:16:41,260 --> 00:16:39,529 Montauk chair was basically a lounge 378 00:16:45,130 --> 00:16:41,270 chair 379 00:16:47,110 --> 00:16:45,140 uh that had crystal radio receivers put 380 00:16:50,500 --> 00:16:47,120 around it so that it could pick up the 381 00:16:51,820 --> 00:16:50,510 thoughts of a psychic and be amplified 382 00:16:55,270 --> 00:16:51,830 out the gain hoard of the the 383 00:16:56,170 --> 00:16:55,280 transmitter tower out there Preston 384 00:16:57,970 --> 00:16:56,180 Nichols can give you a much better 385 00:16:59,530 --> 00:16:57,980 technical description of it than I can 386 00:17:01,660 --> 00:16:59,540 because he's expert in this stuff but 387 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:01,670 basically it's like it's a it's an 388 00:17:05,860 --> 00:17:03,530 amplifier you know how if somebody's 389 00:17:08,110 --> 00:17:05,870 playing a guitar an electric guitar and 390 00:17:12,100 --> 00:17:08,120 they put an amplifier in an f-1 sound 391 00:17:14,140 --> 00:17:12,110 well the sound is is basically radio 392 00:17:15,610 --> 00:17:14,150 waves so you're doing the same thing 393 00:17:18,130 --> 00:17:15,620 with the mental waves and you're 394 00:17:20,410 --> 00:17:18,140 amplifying what's going out in the mind 395 00:17:22,660 --> 00:17:20,420 which includes emotions and includes 396 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:22,670 modes other words a man the george used 397 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:24,410 to give me the paper on martin canon who 398 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:25,850 did a whole lot of research on being 399 00:17:31,210 --> 00:17:27,890 able to change the moods of people it 400 00:17:34,750 --> 00:17:31,220 was all sort of documented studies by 401 00:17:36,610 --> 00:17:34,760 martin canon and this stuff is kind of 402 00:17:39,130 --> 00:17:36,620 pedestrian nowadays at the time it was 403 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:39,140 coming up in the 90's when when this was 404 00:17:46,900 --> 00:17:42,250 printed it was very controversial 405 00:17:49,540 --> 00:17:46,910 my control has been it's it's not 406 00:17:51,070 --> 00:17:49,550 featured too often on TV but it's 407 00:17:54,550 --> 00:17:51,080 mentioned now and then they've had shows 408 00:17:56,860 --> 00:17:54,560 on it and it's certainly a staple of 409 00:17:58,930 --> 00:17:56,870 conspiracy lore and in a staple of 410 00:18:02,080 --> 00:17:58,940 history there's even been what was it 411 00:18:03,730 --> 00:18:02,090 the CIA made a settlement with people at 412 00:18:06,700 --> 00:18:03,740 the Allen Memorial Institute in Montreal 413 00:18:08,650 --> 00:18:06,710 who had claims of mind-control being 414 00:18:11,740 --> 00:18:08,660 used against them by Duncan you and 415 00:18:13,060 --> 00:18:11,750 Cameron who was connected to Duncan 416 00:18:16,510 --> 00:18:13,070 Cameron of the film the Montauk Project 417 00:18:18,460 --> 00:18:16,520 but but this guy was was you know evil 418 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:18,470 personified with what he did the CIA did 419 00:18:22,690 --> 00:18:20,210 not admit any wrongdoings in the payoffs 420 00:18:26,830 --> 00:18:22,700 it was all done in Canada where the CIA 421 00:18:28,780 --> 00:18:26,840 was not supposedly involved a P an alien 422 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:28,790 so you get out of it by going to Canada 423 00:18:33,190 --> 00:18:31,130 and doing it but this stuff is 424 00:18:35,170 --> 00:18:33,200 pedestrian now the mind-control stuff 425 00:18:37,690 --> 00:18:35,180 that happened and surrounded the Montauk 426 00:18:41,470 --> 00:18:37,700 Project doesn't really have to be 427 00:18:43,860 --> 00:18:41,480 established as a we don't have to argue 428 00:18:47,650 --> 00:18:43,870 about the fact that mind control is a 429 00:18:49,270 --> 00:18:47,660 sub submarine subject sub subject of 430 00:18:52,810 --> 00:18:49,280 this now where it becomes very 431 00:18:55,150 --> 00:18:52,820 interesting is the components of time 432 00:18:58,120 --> 00:18:55,160 travel the technology of time 433 00:19:02,440 --> 00:18:58,130 yes and how mind control surrounds that 434 00:19:04,750 --> 00:19:02,450 because we live in a society where we 435 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:04,760 are limited we are limited in the way we 436 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:08,570 think the way we act we don't eat proper 437 00:19:13,750 --> 00:19:12,170 food there is not an adequate demand for 438 00:19:15,610 --> 00:19:13,760 proper food although there is a demand 439 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:15,620 that's increasing but even that 440 00:19:19,180 --> 00:19:17,690 responses you know you go into New York 441 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:19,190 City where I'll be in a couple of days 442 00:19:22,330 --> 00:19:21,410 and you see the they call it organic so 443 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:22,340 they don't know what they're talking 444 00:19:27,310 --> 00:19:25,490 about in New York City some places might 445 00:19:29,590 --> 00:19:27,320 but by and large no people want to eat 446 00:19:31,750 --> 00:19:29,600 organic so though they'll have juices 447 00:19:34,780 --> 00:19:31,760 and they don't really understand in one 448 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:34,790 island it's better but it's still 449 00:19:38,850 --> 00:19:36,530 there's a long way to go as far as 450 00:19:42,010 --> 00:19:38,860 teaching people how to eat properly uh 451 00:19:44,350 --> 00:19:42,020 so that their brains will think properly 452 00:19:45,970 --> 00:19:44,360 and they will function properly and this 453 00:19:50,830 --> 00:19:45,980 is a whole story that one can go into 454 00:19:56,020 --> 00:19:50,840 the holistic quality of a human being 455 00:19:59,860 --> 00:19:56,030 and there are a lot of lacks 456 00:20:02,680 --> 00:19:59,870 in the society we live in so true yes so 457 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:02,690 we're so when when you talk about the 458 00:20:06,130 --> 00:20:04,610 subject of time well time is a 459 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:06,140 perception and how do people perceive 460 00:20:11,830 --> 00:20:09,050 they perceive with their their brain and 461 00:20:15,340 --> 00:20:11,840 it's a filter and the brain is not even 462 00:20:17,710 --> 00:20:15,350 fully activated it's partially activated 463 00:20:20,230 --> 00:20:17,720 so this gets really down to more of the 464 00:20:23,790 --> 00:20:20,240 conspiracy is the human construct as 465 00:20:28,330 --> 00:20:23,800 opposed to shape-shifting reptilians 466 00:20:30,460 --> 00:20:28,340 Bilderbergers of international anchors 467 00:20:32,710 --> 00:20:30,470 and this sort of thing and they they 468 00:20:35,350 --> 00:20:32,720 don't help the problem but the real 469 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:35,360 conspiracy and this is what I started 470 00:20:40,780 --> 00:20:37,850 off into as a young person was the 471 00:20:43,660 --> 00:20:40,790 conspiracy of your own circumstance of 472 00:20:46,330 --> 00:20:43,670 your own awareness this is the key focal 473 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:46,340 point because conspiracy focuses too 474 00:20:50,350 --> 00:20:48,890 much on look what they're doing look at 475 00:20:52,060 --> 00:20:50,360 the power of the dollar bill and the eye 476 00:20:54,220 --> 00:20:52,070 in the Triangle in the dollar bill and 477 00:20:57,070 --> 00:20:54,230 this stuff that is really silly and has 478 00:20:58,420 --> 00:20:57,080 been over marketed on as the prison on 479 00:21:02,860 --> 00:20:58,430 the History Channel 480 00:21:05,410 --> 00:21:02,870 exactly and that whole concept of the 481 00:21:07,300 --> 00:21:05,420 eye in the Triangle that they show in 482 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:07,310 the dollar bill that there's the symbol 483 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:08,850 of the Illuminati 484 00:21:12,650 --> 00:21:10,650 that is the symbol of the illuminating 485 00:21:14,180 --> 00:21:12,660 illuminated being within yourself that 486 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:14,190 you want that the mystery schools used 487 00:21:20,660 --> 00:21:16,250 to teach that gets convoluted and 488 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:20,670 degraded over the centuries so that I am 489 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:21,930 the triangle is what you want to wake up 490 00:21:29,390 --> 00:21:25,050 in yourself and as you do wake up you 491 00:21:31,220 --> 00:21:29,400 will see the conspiracy that's going 492 00:21:34,010 --> 00:21:31,230 around you just in terms of the way 493 00:21:36,380 --> 00:21:34,020 people eat conduct themselves in 494 00:21:38,870 --> 00:21:36,390 business and this sort of thing so this 495 00:21:40,700 --> 00:21:38,880 is what you know rather than focusing on 496 00:21:42,980 --> 00:21:40,710 all these nefarious acts that these 497 00:21:44,630 --> 00:21:42,990 people do and how they make this Batman 498 00:21:46,430 --> 00:21:44,640 shooting and what's that thing the Sandy 499 00:21:49,220 --> 00:21:46,440 Hook shooting and how it's all tied 500 00:21:51,110 --> 00:21:49,230 together and people are studying how 501 00:21:52,550 --> 00:21:51,120 it's all tied together yes it's all tied 502 00:21:55,100 --> 00:21:52,560 together and when you're studying how 503 00:21:56,570 --> 00:21:55,110 it's all tied together you're kind of 504 00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:56,580 missing what's going on inside of you 505 00:22:00,950 --> 00:21:58,170 you're still kind of within the 506 00:22:04,580 --> 00:22:00,960 framework your nature yeah yeah you're 507 00:22:06,290 --> 00:22:04,590 in the squirrel cage and yes it's all 508 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:06,300 connected it was always connected you're 509 00:22:11,210 --> 00:22:08,610 just becoming aware of it it's better to 510 00:22:15,910 --> 00:22:11,220 become aware of what's going on with you 511 00:22:19,340 --> 00:22:15,920 and you could be improving yourself as 512 00:22:21,500 --> 00:22:19,350 opposed to unveiling this conspiracy 513 00:22:23,810 --> 00:22:21,510 which has been I said when they start 514 00:22:26,690 --> 00:22:23,820 unveiling it on the History Channel or 515 00:22:29,750 --> 00:22:26,700 the Jesse Ventura show or whatever this 516 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:29,760 is like the shoemaker or the what is it 517 00:22:32,780 --> 00:22:31,050 the shoeshine boy telling you to buy 518 00:22:34,580 --> 00:22:32,790 stocks it's time to get head stock 519 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:34,590 market it's time to get out of 520 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:38,490 conspiracy because it's really we've got 521 00:22:46,850 --> 00:22:44,730 everybody doing it and you know I mean 522 00:22:50,780 --> 00:22:46,860 sure getting saturated a lot of a lot of 523 00:22:53,330 --> 00:22:50,790 areas are getting Sacher is a you know 524 00:22:55,610 --> 00:22:53,340 it helps me sell my books okay that's 525 00:22:58,580 --> 00:22:55,620 how I'm living but on the other hand 526 00:23:02,210 --> 00:22:58,590 it's it's also important to you know 527 00:23:03,980 --> 00:23:02,220 speak the truth and say what is what 528 00:23:05,630 --> 00:23:03,990 about what and this is sort of the 529 00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:05,640 situation and there's a lot of people 530 00:23:10,550 --> 00:23:08,130 that you know need to be more aware of 531 00:23:14,650 --> 00:23:10,560 what goes on that still believe in the 532 00:23:17,330 --> 00:23:14,660 goodness of you know what our government 533 00:23:19,820 --> 00:23:17,340 supposedly stands for as opposed to what 534 00:23:22,070 --> 00:23:19,830 it really stands for so there's a lot of 535 00:23:22,549 --> 00:23:22,080 you know people are waking up on 536 00:23:25,610 --> 00:23:22,559 different 537 00:23:28,610 --> 00:23:25,620 levels so this is you know the current 538 00:23:30,830 --> 00:23:28,620 level in my estimation is to you know 539 00:23:33,499 --> 00:23:30,840 shed the conspiracy shackles and start 540 00:23:35,330 --> 00:23:33,509 working on yourself that's you know I've 541 00:23:37,669 --> 00:23:35,340 had a lot of guests recently that I've 542 00:23:39,350 --> 00:23:37,679 kind of put that out there and we try to 543 00:23:41,389 --> 00:23:39,360 cover a lot more of the positive side 544 00:23:42,860 --> 00:23:41,399 then a lot of other shows I know Alex 545 00:23:45,710 --> 00:23:42,870 Jones one of the most popular shows out 546 00:23:47,450 --> 00:23:45,720 there it's always just uh it's just 547 00:23:49,159 --> 00:23:47,460 identifying little pieces within the 548 00:23:50,779 --> 00:23:49,169 framework and it doesn't really ever get 549 00:23:52,970 --> 00:23:50,789 you out of it there's not very much 550 00:23:55,340 --> 00:23:52,980 enlightening talk there so yeah I agree 551 00:23:57,590 --> 00:23:55,350 with you it is important to identify it 552 00:23:59,749 --> 00:23:57,600 and know what happened but also you know 553 00:24:01,070 --> 00:23:59,759 you got a you got to realize you know 554 00:24:02,239 --> 00:24:01,080 you're not going to fight this battle in 555 00:24:03,739 --> 00:24:02,249 the three-dimensional world it's a 556 00:24:06,379 --> 00:24:03,749 mental thing and if you can free your 557 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:06,389 mind that's about as good as you can do 558 00:24:10,399 --> 00:24:08,610 I can't speak for Alex Jones I've 559 00:24:11,930 --> 00:24:10,409 certainly heard of him I've seen a few 560 00:24:14,799 --> 00:24:11,940 youtubes I've never listened to his show 561 00:24:18,169 --> 00:24:14,809 but then I've never listened to the 562 00:24:20,539 --> 00:24:18,179 heart bail show maybe I heard the David 563 00:24:21,980 --> 00:24:20,549 Andersen broadcast I looked those on 564 00:24:25,220 --> 00:24:21,990 youtube but I've never listened to any 565 00:24:26,810 --> 00:24:25,230 of these shows George Noory a no no 566 00:24:29,299 --> 00:24:26,820 never listen to them because they're not 567 00:24:32,629 --> 00:24:29,309 a valid source of information for what I 568 00:24:33,950 --> 00:24:32,639 would be interested in but uh well let's 569 00:24:36,379 --> 00:24:33,960 talk about that what are you interested 570 00:24:37,669 --> 00:24:36,389 in what message would you put out that 571 00:24:41,269 --> 00:24:37,679 you don't think people are hearing is 572 00:24:43,009 --> 00:24:41,279 something about about the is it's not 573 00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:43,019 even about Alex Jones if somebody did a 574 00:24:48,379 --> 00:24:45,360 whole diatribe on where his funding 575 00:24:51,169 --> 00:24:48,389 comes from right but not in relation to 576 00:24:53,149 --> 00:24:51,179 Alex Jones but it's the somebody also 577 00:24:56,090 --> 00:24:53,159 did a study of the ratings of these big 578 00:24:59,779 --> 00:24:56,100 conservative talk show hosts alike Sean 579 00:25:01,549 --> 00:24:59,789 Hannity and Rush Limbaugh and and some 580 00:25:05,029 --> 00:25:01,559 others I think it was that guy that 581 00:25:07,609 --> 00:25:05,039 Mormon guy he was really noisy on TV 582 00:25:10,009 --> 00:25:07,619 with short guy with a blond hair huh I 583 00:25:12,019 --> 00:25:10,019 think Glenn back yeah yeah gone back and 584 00:25:13,700 --> 00:25:12,029 somebody did a study and said that their 585 00:25:15,139 --> 00:25:13,710 ratings were completely bogus and false 586 00:25:17,779 --> 00:25:15,149 in other words your ankles not listening 587 00:25:19,190 --> 00:25:17,789 to their shows and that clip with it 588 00:25:20,570 --> 00:25:19,200 whatever the company I forget the name 589 00:25:23,090 --> 00:25:20,580 which was the biggest Broadcasting 590 00:25:26,930 --> 00:25:23,100 Company was paying them a huge salaries 591 00:25:29,149 --> 00:25:26,940 but it was all false ratings because 592 00:25:31,159 --> 00:25:29,159 they're thinking without a broadcast out 593 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:31,169 there and people think that this is what 594 00:25:34,639 --> 00:25:32,610 people are thinking or thinking that 595 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:34,649 they're agreeing now sure that does 596 00:25:37,790 --> 00:25:35,850 there are some people 597 00:25:41,690 --> 00:25:37,800 with it and buying into it but it's all 598 00:25:43,670 --> 00:25:41,700 sort of a scam in itself because the 599 00:25:46,510 --> 00:25:43,680 ratings aren't there but they disguise 600 00:25:49,070 --> 00:25:46,520 huge money so they can play the part but 601 00:25:50,660 --> 00:25:49,080 it's it's actually a controlling of the 602 00:25:53,870 --> 00:25:50,670 airwaves because nobody really wants to 603 00:25:57,140 --> 00:25:53,880 hear this bogus conservatism which isn't 604 00:25:59,630 --> 00:25:57,150 really conservative at all and so this 605 00:26:05,990 --> 00:25:59,640 is like what goes on in media and does 606 00:26:09,470 --> 00:26:06,000 it go on in the alternative media yes 607 00:26:12,970 --> 00:26:09,480 it's even probably more sinister there 608 00:26:16,940 --> 00:26:12,980 because people are being more fooled and 609 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:16,950 most of your top line speakers have 610 00:26:24,110 --> 00:26:19,650 affiliations with secret societies yes 611 00:26:26,630 --> 00:26:24,120 that's true and it's it's like uh they 612 00:26:28,700 --> 00:26:26,640 just don't understand so I you're saying 613 00:26:31,850 --> 00:26:28,710 what am i interested in it's generally 614 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:31,860 not what other people are interested in 615 00:26:37,700 --> 00:26:35,850 I was interested in time at a time when 616 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:37,710 physicists weren't interested in time 617 00:26:44,030 --> 00:26:40,410 they were interested in holding their 618 00:26:48,140 --> 00:26:44,040 status quo with a few few tiny 619 00:26:50,570 --> 00:26:48,150 exceptions uh so now all the physicists 620 00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:50,580 are getting interested in time and it's 621 00:26:55,100 --> 00:26:53,130 become vogue to talk about the 622 00:27:00,110 --> 00:26:55,110 possibility of time travel although most 623 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:00,120 of them are really in the dark ages not 624 00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:02,610 all of them but most of them so that 625 00:27:07,490 --> 00:27:04,110 this is like what am i interested in 626 00:27:09,620 --> 00:27:07,500 what human beings are interested in I 627 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:09,630 mean you look at what's they watch on TV 628 00:27:15,890 --> 00:27:13,890 and whatnot uh you know it's it's kind 629 00:27:19,090 --> 00:27:15,900 of like peeling back the veil right now 630 00:27:21,710 --> 00:27:19,100 right my aim interest is in the Romanian 631 00:27:24,620 --> 00:27:21,720 adventure that I'm in involved in 632 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:24,630 as wellas as well as Qi Gong a Taoist 633 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:27,170 Qigong which I practice every day um 634 00:27:32,050 --> 00:27:30,570 which is all about energy well you 635 00:27:35,510 --> 00:27:32,060 started off kind of by mentioning that 636 00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:35,520 biorhythm that took place right around 637 00:27:38,870 --> 00:27:37,110 the time of the Philadelphia Experiment 638 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:38,880 I wondered if maybe that had anything to 639 00:27:43,100 --> 00:27:40,770 do with creating a different effect when 640 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:43,110 they're manipulating magnetic fields I 641 00:27:47,570 --> 00:27:45,090 mean you hear about ley lines you hear 642 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:47,580 about certain energy nodes on the planet 643 00:27:51,500 --> 00:27:49,290 energy is the one area 644 00:27:54,110 --> 00:27:51,510 that I just it starts to get a little 645 00:27:56,300 --> 00:27:54,120 new agey I haven't felt any real effects 646 00:27:58,490 --> 00:27:56,310 of energy in my life have gone to Reiki 647 00:28:00,620 --> 00:27:58,500 before and had no tree little no effect 648 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:00,630 I'm interested in it how could someone 649 00:28:06,170 --> 00:28:03,210 who is a bit of a skeptic actually feel 650 00:28:08,450 --> 00:28:06,180 a noticeable energy change is there a 651 00:28:11,570 --> 00:28:08,460 way just to verify I can tell you right 652 00:28:15,370 --> 00:28:11,580 now nice I can tell you uh if you were 653 00:28:18,710 --> 00:28:15,380 to take your hand and you were to press 654 00:28:21,020 --> 00:28:18,720 at the bottom of each finger you know 655 00:28:24,350 --> 00:28:21,030 where the finger meets the part of the 656 00:28:27,890 --> 00:28:24,360 hand you press each one of those bottom 657 00:28:29,540 --> 00:28:27,900 points of a finger and on each hand you 658 00:28:33,020 --> 00:28:29,550 press them and you rub them around for a 659 00:28:36,950 --> 00:28:33,030 bit and then you rub the centre the 660 00:28:38,210 --> 00:28:36,960 centre of the palm and then if you've 661 00:28:39,710 --> 00:28:38,220 done that tell me when you've done that 662 00:28:42,740 --> 00:28:39,720 on both hand I'm doing it 663 00:28:44,390 --> 00:28:42,750 okay now you take your fingernails and 664 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:44,400 you rub the fingernails together like 665 00:28:48,380 --> 00:28:46,770 you were like they were sandpaper 666 00:28:51,110 --> 00:28:48,390 you know like you were rubbing sandpaper 667 00:28:52,340 --> 00:28:51,120 against you're like sitting your nails 668 00:28:54,650 --> 00:28:52,350 each one you're rubbing all your 669 00:28:56,030 --> 00:28:54,660 fingernails together and the thumbs you 670 00:28:57,710 --> 00:28:56,040 understand what I'm saying yeah yeah I'm 671 00:29:00,230 --> 00:28:57,720 doing it and the audience can do this 672 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:00,240 and you do this for a while now when you 673 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:02,250 do this and you keep doing it I'm going 674 00:29:06,050 --> 00:29:03,810 to have you open up your hands and 675 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:06,060 you're going to feel an imaginary ball 676 00:29:10,610 --> 00:29:08,130 which will be about the size of a Nerf 677 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:10,620 ball if you just open it up now open up 678 00:29:15,050 --> 00:29:11,730 the hand you feel the energy between 679 00:29:17,510 --> 00:29:15,060 your hands I dude I definitely do feel 680 00:29:19,310 --> 00:29:17,520 like a little tingle there yeah yeah 681 00:29:22,820 --> 00:29:19,320 you'll feel an energy that's achieve all 682 00:29:27,050 --> 00:29:22,830 she is lifeforce energy now you can take 683 00:29:28,370 --> 00:29:27,060 this and that you just feel that energy 684 00:29:32,390 --> 00:29:28,380 you can send that to any part of your 685 00:29:34,700 --> 00:29:32,400 body I once did this for an audience in 686 00:29:38,030 --> 00:29:34,710 Germany and and the woman had a hip 687 00:29:41,660 --> 00:29:38,040 plane or you know for what he call it up 688 00:29:43,490 --> 00:29:41,670 a cute hip pain and she did this 689 00:29:45,170 --> 00:29:43,500 exercise I said senator body and she was 690 00:29:47,150 --> 00:29:45,180 so happy she was healed she came up and 691 00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:47,160 gave me all these massage tools that she 692 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:49,110 is in her percept profession he's you 693 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:51,450 know about $60 worth of massage tools as 694 00:29:55,700 --> 00:29:54,330 a gift for me because she was so you 695 00:29:59,030 --> 00:29:55,710 know I said wow this handled a long 696 00:30:01,760 --> 00:29:59,040 duration affliction that she had now 697 00:30:03,530 --> 00:30:01,770 where I could show you more proof and I 698 00:30:04,940 --> 00:30:03,540 I wouldn't brag about my own abilities 699 00:30:06,620 --> 00:30:04,950 because simply because I haven't tried 700 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:06,630 it but there is something called a 701 00:30:13,550 --> 00:30:09,170 kangen water system that can cost up to 702 00:30:16,250 --> 00:30:13,560 $10,000 that is increases the pH of the 703 00:30:18,050 --> 00:30:16,260 water and of course pH is very good for 704 00:30:20,390 --> 00:30:18,060 what to have high pH in your water 705 00:30:22,310 --> 00:30:20,400 because it will alkalize your body and 706 00:30:24,740 --> 00:30:22,320 disease has only happen when your bucks 707 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:24,750 I've heard that it is a cancer cure that 708 00:30:28,940 --> 00:30:26,490 revolves around that oh yeah yeah 709 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:28,950 totally so anyway there was a big 710 00:30:34,370 --> 00:30:32,730 martial arts you know seminar going down 711 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:34,380 in North Carolina and my teacher was 712 00:30:39,500 --> 00:30:36,570 down there and this guy who is leading 713 00:30:42,260 --> 00:30:39,510 the seminar had a hang and water system 714 00:30:45,050 --> 00:30:42,270 and was showing how the pH get out my 715 00:30:47,210 --> 00:30:45,060 teacher went over there using this type 716 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:47,220 of energy which that's there's much more 717 00:30:50,630 --> 00:30:48,930 that's just like an initial introduction 718 00:30:52,190 --> 00:30:50,640 to achieve all but he goes over there 719 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:52,200 puts his hands are out the water and it 720 00:30:58,550 --> 00:30:55,290 had a higher ph then the the mckay and 721 00:31:02,750 --> 00:30:58,560 water system that's physical chi energy 722 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:02,760 from from a chi gong grandmaster yeah 723 00:31:06,410 --> 00:31:04,290 I've seen some monks do some crazy 724 00:31:08,750 --> 00:31:06,420 things Bruce Lee was all about the Chi 725 00:31:10,790 --> 00:31:08,760 energy and he had powers that seemed to 726 00:31:12,530 --> 00:31:10,800 transcend you know what's normal his 727 00:31:14,510 --> 00:31:12,540 strength seemed to be ridiculously 728 00:31:17,180 --> 00:31:14,520 powerful and I've seen plenty of 729 00:31:19,550 --> 00:31:17,190 examples of it it's it just seems like 730 00:31:23,060 --> 00:31:19,560 it takes so much time and years and 731 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:23,070 years of dedication to it let me let me 732 00:31:29,150 --> 00:31:24,450 put it this way I've been studying it 733 00:31:30,620 --> 00:31:29,160 for six years and according to what my 734 00:31:31,850 --> 00:31:30,630 teacher told me see because a lot of 735 00:31:33,290 --> 00:31:31,860 guys if you listen to Chuck Norris 736 00:31:34,340 --> 00:31:33,300 talking about the death of Bruce Lee he 737 00:31:37,220 --> 00:31:34,350 doesn't know what he's talking about 738 00:31:39,980 --> 00:31:37,230 because he's not really he'll talk about 739 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:39,990 the medical reasons Bruce died uh and 740 00:31:43,700 --> 00:31:42,330 he's not really gemmed in on this sort 741 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:43,710 of martial arts he's in this sort of 742 00:31:50,630 --> 00:31:46,770 kick-ass karate yeah let's learn in 743 00:31:52,430 --> 00:31:50,640 Korea and ah there's a lot of mystery 744 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:52,440 surrounding Bruce Lee yes a lot against 745 00:31:58,700 --> 00:31:53,730 I'm just telling you what my teacher 746 00:32:01,640 --> 00:31:58,710 told me sure basically Bruce Lee was he 747 00:32:04,310 --> 00:32:01,650 was a great great athlete great martial 748 00:32:05,870 --> 00:32:04,320 artist but he was at odds with the 749 00:32:09,530 --> 00:32:05,880 Chinese they didn't want him to teach 750 00:32:13,550 --> 00:32:09,540 this at Morton or this story but he was 751 00:32:15,380 --> 00:32:13,560 also very cocky and disrespectful at 752 00:32:18,919 --> 00:32:15,390 times you know he pre 753 00:32:19,310 --> 00:32:18,929 tada yes he was it was very close to his 754 00:32:24,860 --> 00:32:19,320 heart 755 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:24,870 and he was disrespectful and from the 756 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:26,850 story I heard which is like insight 757 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:30,330 martial arts he disrespected one of 758 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:33,210 these masters you know and what I say 759 00:32:37,780 --> 00:32:36,210 disrespected him probably tweaked him 760 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:37,790 physically I don't know what happened 761 00:32:46,700 --> 00:32:42,570 but one of his students was was was not 762 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:46,710 very happy and hit Bruce Lee and the 763 00:32:54,799 --> 00:32:49,290 back of the head and actually hit him 764 00:32:56,630 --> 00:32:54,809 now this hit was not something that you 765 00:33:00,650 --> 00:32:56,640 know paralyzed Bruce Lee it was a chi 766 00:33:03,950 --> 00:33:00,660 blow she can be used to kill it can be 767 00:33:06,530 --> 00:33:03,960 used it's all about intent and this this 768 00:33:09,820 --> 00:33:06,540 was like was a reaction I don't know 769 00:33:13,159 --> 00:33:09,830 exactly what happened but that Chi 770 00:33:15,830 --> 00:33:13,169 knocking into Bruce Lee's head is what 771 00:33:18,860 --> 00:33:15,840 precipitated the whole medical situation 772 00:33:23,330 --> 00:33:18,870 in other words he was he was dead from 773 00:33:26,150 --> 00:33:23,340 Chi is you don't die like that if your 774 00:33:27,409 --> 00:33:26,160 if your Chi is working you know it's 775 00:33:29,150 --> 00:33:27,419 even with the synchronicity of the 776 00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:29,160 moment he got he bit off more than he 777 00:33:33,950 --> 00:33:31,440 could chew she's also got a curse 778 00:33:36,740 --> 00:33:33,960 against him his family supposedly but 779 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:36,750 this Chi blow he was told what to do and 780 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:38,970 to come back and get it heal and he did 781 00:33:44,419 --> 00:33:41,370 not come he did not pay attention he did 782 00:33:47,270 --> 00:33:44,429 not you know so as great as he was as 783 00:33:49,909 --> 00:33:47,280 brilliant as he was we all have our weak 784 00:33:51,530 --> 00:33:49,919 point you miss prideful yeah prideful 785 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:51,540 and that's and you know he was good he 786 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:53,970 would he would not teach pride but I 787 00:34:00,260 --> 00:33:55,650 mean the guy was good when you're that 788 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:00,270 good uh you know it's it's you know it's 789 00:34:04,220 --> 00:34:02,490 it's not hard it's especially if you're 790 00:34:06,230 --> 00:34:04,230 a showman and an actor yeah you're among 791 00:34:08,270 --> 00:34:06,240 the masses who I know though you're 792 00:34:11,659 --> 00:34:08,280 showing he basically showing off that's 793 00:34:13,609 --> 00:34:11,669 a true and and he was a great inner from 794 00:34:14,869 --> 00:34:13,619 you know he was basically a great human 795 00:34:17,240 --> 00:34:14,879 being from everything I've heard about 796 00:34:21,139 --> 00:34:17,250 him but as they say when you get into 797 00:34:23,570 --> 00:34:21,149 some of these lofty or areas of what 798 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:23,580 you're doing uh you know that's the 799 00:34:28,490 --> 00:34:26,490 story I know I wasn't there but when I 800 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:28,500 do see his wife talking about 801 00:34:33,050 --> 00:34:29,970 or this or that or the other thing 802 00:34:35,149 --> 00:34:33,060 there's some blank spots there that the 803 00:34:37,629 --> 00:34:35,159 certain things they don't understand 804 00:34:40,850 --> 00:34:37,639 because they don't even talk in terms of 805 00:34:44,090 --> 00:34:40,860 Chi energy or really understanding what 806 00:34:47,899 --> 00:34:44,100 it is it's very powerful and of course 807 00:34:50,780 --> 00:34:47,909 in in the hands of the master is its its 808 00:34:52,820 --> 00:34:50,790 life-giving it's and that's really the 809 00:34:56,270 --> 00:34:52,830 point of it is to teach people like but 810 00:34:59,630 --> 00:34:56,280 it's so outside of the box of the way 811 00:35:02,270 --> 00:34:59,640 people think then some 812 00:35:03,950 --> 00:35:02,280 I saw a jujitsu master last night kind 813 00:35:06,170 --> 00:35:03,960 of really having some ontological shock 814 00:35:09,500 --> 00:35:06,180 about being shown certain things that 815 00:35:10,850 --> 00:35:09,510 just seem so stupid to him but not that 816 00:35:12,380 --> 00:35:10,860 he was saying they were stupid but it's 817 00:35:14,570 --> 00:35:12,390 like you know they're you know he knows 818 00:35:16,940 --> 00:35:14,580 these moves that are like conventional 819 00:35:20,210 --> 00:35:16,950 karate type moves and they just aren't 820 00:35:22,910 --> 00:35:20,220 going to work against certain principles 821 00:35:24,770 --> 00:35:22,920 of nature so it's like and there was 822 00:35:26,270 --> 00:35:24,780 even a story that's true of one guy 823 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:26,280 getting thrown by a woman in our class 824 00:35:29,990 --> 00:35:27,690 and he checked into Bellevue he had 825 00:35:31,340 --> 00:35:30,000 ontological shock he thought he went in 826 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:31,350 the rubber room he couldn't deal with it 827 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:33,810 because some woman could outmaneuver him 828 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:35,970 and he was like a nth degree black belt 829 00:35:40,550 --> 00:35:39,330 in whatever am so that this is like it's 830 00:35:42,770 --> 00:35:40,560 you know it's its energy and its people 831 00:35:45,140 --> 00:35:42,780 have fixed ideas so if you have people 832 00:35:49,130 --> 00:35:45,150 that are like well schooled in whether 833 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:49,140 it's you know karate or or something 834 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:51,450 more mundane like university education 835 00:35:58,100 --> 00:35:55,410 they're very and trained to think in a 836 00:36:00,800 --> 00:35:58,110 certain way you know all Chinese martial 837 00:36:01,910 --> 00:36:00,810 arts is trained in the wrong I'm telling 838 00:36:04,370 --> 00:36:01,920 you it's trained in the wrong way 839 00:36:06,140 --> 00:36:04,380 because I was taught by somebody who 840 00:36:07,700 --> 00:36:06,150 teaches it the right way and he can 841 00:36:10,220 --> 00:36:07,710 demonstrate why they do it the wrong way 842 00:36:12,410 --> 00:36:10,230 I also sometimes wonder about just the 843 00:36:14,090 --> 00:36:12,420 placebo effect in general and that if 844 00:36:15,710 --> 00:36:14,100 people have doubts if they've been 845 00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:15,720 taught that there's nothing to energy 846 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:17,250 they aren't going to feel those effects 847 00:36:20,930 --> 00:36:18,930 because their mind is telling them 848 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:20,940 there's nothing there kind of like same 849 00:36:24,890 --> 00:36:22,410 goes with crystals you know some people 850 00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:24,900 put a lot of faith in crystals and their 851 00:36:30,020 --> 00:36:28,320 properties and maybe it's maybe they're 852 00:36:31,910 --> 00:36:30,030 manifesting that because they have such 853 00:36:33,620 --> 00:36:31,920 faith in it sometimes I wonder about 854 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:33,630 with crystals what you have to 855 00:36:36,910 --> 00:36:35,850 understand with crystals is that's how 856 00:36:39,860 --> 00:36:36,920 radios work 857 00:36:41,850 --> 00:36:39,870 rainbows true souls so it's kind of like 858 00:36:43,710 --> 00:36:41,860 they are a 859 00:36:46,260 --> 00:36:43,720 what you need a crystal to make a radio 860 00:36:49,470 --> 00:36:46,270 receipt so if you put it into the 861 00:36:53,130 --> 00:36:49,480 scientific reference frame then you have 862 00:36:54,570 --> 00:36:53,140 now I had a friend I don't know what 863 00:36:57,090 --> 00:36:54,580 happened to a Mark Roberts he's 864 00:36:58,830 --> 00:36:57,100 mentioned in my book a Montauk book the 865 00:37:01,040 --> 00:36:58,840 living he was a dowser a very 866 00:37:04,290 --> 00:37:01,050 interesting man but he he was doing a 867 00:37:07,710 --> 00:37:04,300 workshop here in New York and he took 868 00:37:09,900 --> 00:37:07,720 these two crystals that were flat 869 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:09,910 they had flat I think they've been you 870 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:13,450 know shaved the word I can't even 871 00:37:19,140 --> 00:37:16,210 remember cut what's the word sawed and 872 00:37:22,470 --> 00:37:19,150 they were flat bottoms and he rubbed 873 00:37:25,230 --> 00:37:22,480 them together in a dark room and we some 874 00:37:27,450 --> 00:37:25,240 light up wow that's awesome there's a 875 00:37:28,770 --> 00:37:27,460 piezo electric effect but he says I want 876 00:37:31,170 --> 00:37:28,780 you to see that this energy with 877 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:31,180 crystals is not not the s he says he so 878 00:37:34,230 --> 00:37:32,170 he showed it and he wanted to 879 00:37:37,110 --> 00:37:34,240 demonstrate it and it would light up 880 00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:37,120 they were quartz crystals those are 881 00:37:40,350 --> 00:37:38,320 definitely interesting but people 882 00:37:43,710 --> 00:37:40,360 attribute some wild properties to them 883 00:37:45,300 --> 00:37:43,720 and I'm not so sure how far it goes you 884 00:37:47,550 --> 00:37:45,310 know the spectrum is very wide with 885 00:37:51,180 --> 00:37:47,560 crystals yeah it is well in terms of the 886 00:37:53,430 --> 00:37:51,190 clams yes it's it's uh but you know 887 00:37:55,050 --> 00:37:53,440 people that are freaking of you know 888 00:37:56,970 --> 00:37:55,060 sensitives they have different brain 889 00:37:58,530 --> 00:37:56,980 entrainment I don't mean that they're 890 00:38:01,740 --> 00:37:58,540 exaggerating but they they're sensitive 891 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:01,750 so there is applications to them but 892 00:38:07,260 --> 00:38:04,450 that's a whole nother subject yeah but 893 00:38:09,540 --> 00:38:07,270 anyway well I do want to jump over to 894 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:09,550 your other claim to fame man the the 895 00:38:13,830 --> 00:38:11,890 other great chunk of conspiracy goodness 896 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:13,840 I mean that's the stuff that's going on 897 00:38:17,790 --> 00:38:15,490 in Romania you know the story of the 898 00:38:20,610 --> 00:38:17,800 Hall of Records as I understand it 899 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:20,620 because of your work in describing the 900 00:38:24,210 --> 00:38:22,450 Montauk Project and time travel you were 901 00:38:25,890 --> 00:38:24,220 approached by this David Andersen guy 902 00:38:28,860 --> 00:38:25,900 who was impressed enough to bring you to 903 00:38:30,510 --> 00:38:28,870 Romania where you met this ratty cinema 904 00:38:32,220 --> 00:38:30,520 guy and he told you about the secret 905 00:38:34,590 --> 00:38:32,230 chamber are those kind of the cliff 906 00:38:37,170 --> 00:38:34,600 notes you want to tell people well it's 907 00:38:38,700 --> 00:38:37,180 it's it's not exactly accurate because 908 00:38:40,620 --> 00:38:38,710 well David is a very interesting 909 00:38:44,670 --> 00:38:40,630 character who I've known for some 14 910 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:44,680 years now and he uh is a time control 911 00:38:48,180 --> 00:38:46,570 scientist who was very impressed with 912 00:38:50,130 --> 00:38:48,190 the Montauk Project in fact he made a 913 00:38:52,290 --> 00:38:50,140 point of it and when he read my last 914 00:38:54,630 --> 00:38:52,300 newsletter I do have a newsletter the 915 00:38:56,180 --> 00:38:54,640 Montauk pulse which is published once 916 00:38:59,150 --> 00:38:56,190 every Corps 917 00:39:01,160 --> 00:38:59,160 you can get it from sky books at sky 918 00:39:02,660 --> 00:39:01,170 books usa.com you can sign up for the 919 00:39:05,059 --> 00:39:02,670 newsletter its quarterly it's about 920 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:05,069 twenty dollars a year there's four 921 00:39:09,710 --> 00:39:07,410 issues and I do updates on this stuff 922 00:39:11,539 --> 00:39:09,720 the next one will be on my adventures to 923 00:39:13,509 --> 00:39:11,549 Romania which will probably be touching 924 00:39:16,190 --> 00:39:13,519 on here in a few minutes but David uh 925 00:39:19,579 --> 00:39:16,200 there's a time control scientist and he 926 00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:19,589 even an incredible lecture on Costa Co 927 00:39:23,749 --> 00:39:20,910 not lecture a discussion on 928 00:39:25,819 --> 00:39:23,759 coast-to-coast about the capabilities of 929 00:39:27,950 --> 00:39:25,829 what he's up to now of course I've kind 930 00:39:30,650 --> 00:39:27,960 of followed him with this for 14 years 931 00:39:32,779 --> 00:39:30,660 and he can slow things down in time 932 00:39:34,970 --> 00:39:32,789 speed them up in time I saw a video at 933 00:39:37,279 --> 00:39:34,980 this at Montauk with about 20 other 934 00:39:39,710 --> 00:39:37,289 people we witnessed a video of this he's 935 00:39:41,509 --> 00:39:39,720 not been able to Lee yeah he's not been 936 00:39:44,539 --> 00:39:41,519 able to release that or a similar video 937 00:39:47,990 --> 00:39:44,549 due to uh what he calls bureaucratic 938 00:39:50,089 --> 00:39:48,000 issues red tape he called it man he's 939 00:39:51,380 --> 00:39:50,099 hoping to do like I thought he would 940 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:51,390 have done it by now from what he said 941 00:40:00,589 --> 00:39:57,690 but release courses in time uh online 942 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:00,599 courses on time studying time I don't 943 00:40:04,999 --> 00:40:02,130 have any idea what these courses are 944 00:40:07,370 --> 00:40:05,009 going to be but he was supposed to be 945 00:40:08,900 --> 00:40:07,380 doing courses online courses for people 946 00:40:10,910 --> 00:40:08,910 interested in time on I guess it would 947 00:40:15,140 --> 00:40:10,920 be on his website with the Anderson 948 00:40:20,990 --> 00:40:15,150 Institute but he was interested in time 949 00:40:24,289 --> 00:40:21,000 he was helping to fund a camp called 950 00:40:28,609 --> 00:40:24,299 Atlantic Ron in Romania that would meet 951 00:40:31,099 --> 00:40:28,619 every summer and it was artists writers 952 00:40:32,779 --> 00:40:31,109 and scientists who wouldn't meet their 953 00:40:34,309 --> 00:40:32,789 minds and some really incredible things 954 00:40:37,789 --> 00:40:34,319 come out of there but it's basically a 955 00:40:38,269 --> 00:40:37,799 camp for youth Romanian youth sixteen to 956 00:40:40,009 --> 00:40:38,279 thirty 957 00:40:42,859 --> 00:40:40,019 they have science fiction discussions 958 00:40:45,769 --> 00:40:42,869 there they have art workshops they have 959 00:40:48,559 --> 00:40:45,779 scientific discussions there's a man who 960 00:40:52,069 --> 00:40:48,569 brought neurology to Romania the science 961 00:40:55,849 --> 00:40:52,079 of neurology I see him every year 962 00:40:57,950 --> 00:40:55,859 I'm friends with him and his wife the 963 00:41:00,140 --> 00:40:57,960 complexity Studies Center Florine 964 00:41:02,150 --> 00:41:00,150 Montano who's like one of the most 965 00:41:04,609 --> 00:41:02,160 incredible professors in Romania these 966 00:41:06,470 --> 00:41:04,619 people have become my friends but and 967 00:41:09,019 --> 00:41:06,480 many of them have met David but I got to 968 00:41:11,509 --> 00:41:09,029 meet the the me 969 00:41:12,799 --> 00:41:11,519 the cosmonaut he's the only Romanian 970 00:41:14,809 --> 00:41:12,809 ever to go into space Romania's 971 00:41:16,609 --> 00:41:14,819 cosmonaut - go - so he's now a friend of 972 00:41:19,009 --> 00:41:16,619 mine and there's incredible people there 973 00:41:21,380 --> 00:41:19,019 he recently just started showing up at a 974 00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:21,390 glance akan so you have an incredible 975 00:41:28,339 --> 00:41:24,089 amount of some of the best minds in the 976 00:41:30,049 --> 00:41:28,349 world flow through that that camp and of 977 00:41:33,319 --> 00:41:30,059 course they're teaching young people I 978 00:41:35,329 --> 00:41:33,329 teach Qigong there and I lecture on sort 979 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:35,339 of the stuff I'm with a more of a tilt 980 00:41:40,539 --> 00:41:37,650 toward sacred Romania but I lecture on 981 00:41:43,130 --> 00:41:40,549 all this all these type of things and 982 00:41:44,689 --> 00:41:43,140 the David so David Anderson brought me 983 00:41:47,390 --> 00:41:44,699 there he was there the first two summers 984 00:41:49,489 --> 00:41:47,400 and although he keeps tabs on me while 985 00:41:53,659 --> 00:41:49,499 I'm there he has not been present for 986 00:41:56,179 --> 00:41:53,669 the last four summers at Romania but he 987 00:41:58,939 --> 00:41:56,189 you know emails me now and then while 988 00:42:02,870 --> 00:41:58,949 I'm there even in real life he does but 989 00:42:04,399 --> 00:42:02,880 he's not we're waiting for something to 990 00:42:05,989 --> 00:42:04,409 come from his quarter the next thing I 991 00:42:07,909 --> 00:42:05,999 expected here is these these online 992 00:42:09,709 --> 00:42:07,919 courses but he's a real time control 993 00:42:11,419 --> 00:42:09,719 scientist and when he did the interview 994 00:42:12,949 --> 00:42:11,429 without bail he did say I asked him if 995 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:12,959 they were putting people in the chamber 996 00:42:17,149 --> 00:42:14,729 and he said yes and he said it was very 997 00:42:20,419 --> 00:42:17,159 close to book before sending people back 998 00:42:23,179 --> 00:42:20,429 in time so to speak now he also will 999 00:42:26,630 --> 00:42:23,189 tell you in the same paragraph that what 1000 00:42:30,259 --> 00:42:26,640 you're told is you know the government 1001 00:42:31,729 --> 00:42:30,269 or the secret sector is 15-20 years 1002 00:42:33,380 --> 00:42:31,739 ahead of you Preston Nichols would say 1003 00:42:36,829 --> 00:42:33,390 30 years ahead of you what you don't 1004 00:42:40,099 --> 00:42:36,839 hear like the little tiny computers that 1005 00:42:41,509 --> 00:42:40,109 we have today I remember a guy connected 1006 00:42:44,390 --> 00:42:41,519 with Bell Labs tell me that they had 1007 00:42:46,819 --> 00:42:44,400 those in in the 1980s he was telling me 1008 00:42:49,609 --> 00:42:46,829 he says yeah it's all on a little box so 1009 00:42:51,380 --> 00:42:49,619 these discoveries are made way ahead of 1010 00:42:53,179 --> 00:42:51,390 time and then they're filtered out into 1011 00:42:55,370 --> 00:42:53,189 the military industrial complex who's 1012 00:42:58,009 --> 00:42:55,380 gonna sell them is it going to be you 1013 00:43:01,789 --> 00:42:58,019 know Sony is it going to be Samsung is 1014 00:43:06,289 --> 00:43:01,799 it going to be you know right whatever 1015 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:06,299 company so these are you know the way 1016 00:43:10,909 --> 00:43:08,729 the world really is as opposed to the 1017 00:43:13,309 --> 00:43:10,919 way it appears to be but so David 1018 00:43:16,009 --> 00:43:13,319 Anderson brought me to Romania and he 1019 00:43:18,559 --> 00:43:16,019 didn't I did not meet a rad new cinema 1020 00:43:20,959 --> 00:43:18,569 in person I have had a correspondence 1021 00:43:22,870 --> 00:43:20,969 with him he approached a publisher who 1022 00:43:25,269 --> 00:43:22,880 published the Montauk Project Mike 1023 00:43:26,650 --> 00:43:25,279 in Romania who published it in the 1024 00:43:28,329 --> 00:43:26,660 Romanian language he approached him and 1025 00:43:30,460 --> 00:43:28,339 says would you like to do my book he did 1026 00:43:35,490 --> 00:43:30,470 and that that is how that book got 1027 00:43:36,819 --> 00:43:35,500 published in in Romania and then I 1028 00:43:40,839 --> 00:43:36,829 translated it 1029 00:43:45,660 --> 00:43:40,849 I had the books translated into English 1030 00:43:47,769 --> 00:43:45,670 and published in in english-language 1031 00:43:49,539 --> 00:43:47,779 Transylvania sunrise Transylvania 1032 00:43:52,089 --> 00:43:49,549 moonrise mystery of Egypt and the new 1033 00:43:54,039 --> 00:43:52,099 ones secret parchment so those books all 1034 00:43:55,839 --> 00:43:54,049 the whole series everything that he's 1035 00:43:58,930 --> 00:43:55,849 written is now in the English language 1036 00:44:01,120 --> 00:43:58,940 and it's a story that I also add to 1037 00:44:05,109 --> 00:44:01,130 because each year I've gone to Romania 1038 00:44:07,809 --> 00:44:05,119 and I add my two cents about you know 1039 00:44:10,210 --> 00:44:07,819 the veracity of his claims to the degree 1040 00:44:12,279 --> 00:44:10,220 that I can back them up yeah let's talk 1041 00:44:13,660 --> 00:44:12,289 about the content of those claims pretty 1042 00:44:19,029 --> 00:44:13,670 fascinating stuff 1043 00:44:22,210 --> 00:44:19,039 well the claims are that in the 1044 00:44:23,890 --> 00:44:22,220 mountains of Booch edge stub with shaggy 1045 00:44:27,579 --> 00:44:23,900 we'd say butch eggy but they say butch 1046 00:44:30,009 --> 00:44:27,589 edge and that's in sort of on the border 1047 00:44:34,749 --> 00:44:30,019 of Transylvania is a big plateau right 1048 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:34,759 Pantheon Mountains and the go around it 1049 00:44:41,519 --> 00:44:39,650 and on where the mountains meet going 1050 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:41,529 north and south and east and west 1051 00:44:50,170 --> 00:44:45,890 approximately in that area is less than 1052 00:44:53,470 --> 00:44:50,180 50 miles as the crow flies is where you 1053 00:44:55,509 --> 00:44:53,480 know Count Dracula had his the castle 1054 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:55,519 his fortress he did not have a castle 1055 00:44:59,380 --> 00:44:57,170 and the castle they have there is bogus 1056 00:45:02,319 --> 00:44:59,390 it's not his castle it's just a tourist 1057 00:45:04,930 --> 00:45:02,329 place with negative energy don't go 1058 00:45:08,650 --> 00:45:04,940 there it's not he had a fortress in the 1059 00:45:11,769 --> 00:45:08,660 mountains you can go there but it's it's 1060 00:45:14,019 --> 00:45:11,779 a hard road it's it's more obscure but 1061 00:45:16,870 --> 00:45:14,029 he had a fortress and that was from 1062 00:45:20,079 --> 00:45:16,880 people going in crossing the mountains 1063 00:45:22,749 --> 00:45:20,089 into Transylvania southern part of 1064 00:45:24,549 --> 00:45:22,759 Romania Slovakia with a W spell with the 1065 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:24,559 W or locky he was the Prince of 1066 00:45:28,089 --> 00:45:26,210 Wallachia who's not the Prince of 1067 00:45:32,140 --> 00:45:28,099 Transylvania he did not come from 1068 00:45:35,380 --> 00:45:32,150 Transylvania he was born there when his 1069 00:45:36,250 --> 00:45:35,390 father was incarcerated by Hungarian but 1070 00:45:39,490 --> 00:45:36,260 there was a passage 1071 00:45:41,860 --> 00:45:39,500 there that goes in and out now about 50 1072 00:45:45,730 --> 00:45:41,870 miles as the crow flies it takes longer 1073 00:45:47,860 --> 00:45:45,740 than that by car is a sphinx the 1074 00:45:50,070 --> 00:45:47,870 Romanian sphinx which there's other 1075 00:45:53,410 --> 00:45:50,080 another megalith nearby they're called 1076 00:45:55,810 --> 00:45:53,420 Babel a which means old women it's it's 1077 00:46:00,940 --> 00:45:55,820 a sale by both sacred stone structures 1078 00:46:04,180 --> 00:46:00,950 the Sphinx looks like its profile the 1079 00:46:07,300 --> 00:46:04,190 left side of the space is a face of a 1080 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:07,310 man on the right side you'll see it's 1081 00:46:12,670 --> 00:46:09,170 faded away eroded but it looks like a 1082 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:12,680 Griffin or a lion it's much more rotor 1083 00:46:16,210 --> 00:46:14,330 than the left side and you have to get a 1084 00:46:18,100 --> 00:46:16,220 specific view on it to see it but it's 1085 00:46:21,270 --> 00:46:18,110 the most biggest tourist attraction in 1086 00:46:24,250 --> 00:46:21,280 Romania for the Romanians themselves and 1087 00:46:26,940 --> 00:46:24,260 it's beautiful up there it's it's you're 1088 00:46:29,230 --> 00:46:26,950 above the treeline and there's also like 1089 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:29,240 some of my friends took a walk there I 1090 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:32,090 took a hike I went back to the hotel 1091 00:46:36,820 --> 00:46:34,490 I've been I've been having six hours of 1092 00:46:39,190 --> 00:46:36,830 sleep for like weeks so I went back to 1093 00:46:41,530 --> 00:46:39,200 the hotel to rest and some of the small 1094 00:46:43,900 --> 00:46:41,540 contingent of our group went on a hike 1095 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:43,910 away from the Sphinx and they ended up 1096 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:45,890 in a area where their hair began to 1097 00:46:50,020 --> 00:46:48,290 stand on it weird their hair began to 1098 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:50,030 stand on end and call it static 1099 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:51,410 electricity it's supposed to be just 1100 00:46:55,750 --> 00:46:53,330 before lightning is I don't know if any 1101 00:46:57,910 --> 00:46:55,760 lightning yet but they did quite a time 1102 00:46:59,530 --> 00:46:57,920 of it there's a lot of energetic 1103 00:47:01,360 --> 00:46:59,540 anomalies up there and it's very 1104 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:01,370 beautiful but this Sphinx and to get to 1105 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:05,450 the story what you asked me is maybe 1106 00:47:10,090 --> 00:47:07,610 it's 300 yards underneath there is 1107 00:47:12,190 --> 00:47:10,100 according to the story which was found 1108 00:47:15,580 --> 00:47:12,200 with ground-penetrating radar from a 1109 00:47:19,030 --> 00:47:15,590 satellite was a chamber and this chamber 1110 00:47:22,210 --> 00:47:19,040 they couldn't get at it so they 1111 00:47:23,980 --> 00:47:22,220 approached the head of Department zero 1112 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:23,990 which was the most secretive arm of 1113 00:47:29,290 --> 00:47:26,210 Romanian intelligence man named Caesar 1114 00:47:31,330 --> 00:47:29,300 Brad and the whole story is about how he 1115 00:47:33,730 --> 00:47:31,340 grew up under the psychic supervision of 1116 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:33,740 a Chinese doctor who set up the 1117 00:47:37,060 --> 00:47:35,570 paranormal Department of Romania 1118 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:37,070 Department zero he was from Red China 1119 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:44,890 and he tutored uh basically Cesar Brad 1120 00:47:50,230 --> 00:47:47,450 to get into this position so that he 1121 00:47:53,350 --> 00:47:50,240 would actually help this 1122 00:47:54,850 --> 00:47:53,360 the Americans access this secret chamber 1123 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:54,860 because the Americans discovered it and 1124 00:47:59,620 --> 00:47:56,930 there's negative force that sets it up 1125 00:48:02,470 --> 00:47:59,630 is Italian Freemasonry who tries to get 1126 00:48:04,060 --> 00:48:02,480 out of this character signore Mazzini 1127 00:48:06,850 --> 00:48:04,070 who tries to get at it and he's 1128 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:06,860 portrayed as personified evil and he's 1129 00:48:11,380 --> 00:48:09,410 not successful in getting at the control 1130 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:11,390 this chamber the chamber is controlled 1131 00:48:16,570 --> 00:48:14,450 by the Americans and the Romanians and 1132 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:16,580 in joint activity now what's in this 1133 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:20,330 chamber is very sci-fi if there's tables 1134 00:48:23,350 --> 00:48:21,770 in there which if you put your hand over 1135 00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:23,360 a part of the table it'll read out your 1136 00:48:29,470 --> 00:48:27,200 DNA in molecular form if you put it 1137 00:48:32,050 --> 00:48:29,480 closer it's an atomic form and if you 1138 00:48:36,070 --> 00:48:32,060 put your hand on another part of a table 1139 00:48:39,220 --> 00:48:36,080 it will show an alien DNA and it will 1140 00:48:41,290 --> 00:48:39,230 show it in microscopic or atomic form it 1141 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:41,300 will also show the star system it came 1142 00:48:45,490 --> 00:48:43,610 from and this is all Halle Halle Halle 1143 00:48:47,260 --> 00:48:45,500 Griffey so you'll see the star system 1144 00:48:50,770 --> 00:48:47,270 you'll see the planet and it will tell 1145 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:50,780 you that it came from there apparently 1146 00:48:54,190 --> 00:48:52,850 not I don't know if it's in the Romanian 1147 00:48:55,630 --> 00:48:54,200 language of the English language I don't 1148 00:48:59,200 --> 00:48:55,640 think language is involved I think it's 1149 00:49:00,910 --> 00:48:59,210 graphically portrayed and it's over at 1150 00:49:03,850 --> 00:49:00,920 the same time it'll read out a 1151 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:03,860 hybridization of those two species now 1152 00:49:08,590 --> 00:49:06,890 this is this is non blind stuff it's 1153 00:49:11,530 --> 00:49:08,600 mind-blowing but it see it takes that 1154 00:49:13,030 --> 00:49:11,540 the myth of Noah's Ark and it says well 1155 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:13,040 what's really going on Noah's Ark is a 1156 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:15,410 watered-down story of something like 1157 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:17,690 this and this is supposed to be fifty 1158 00:49:21,220 --> 00:49:19,370 thousand years old to the best of the 1159 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:21,230 best educated guess this place is fifty 1160 00:49:23,950 --> 00:49:22,130 thousand years old 1161 00:49:25,690 --> 00:49:23,960 man I would I would suggest I would 1162 00:49:26,170 --> 00:49:25,700 think it would be much older that's kind 1163 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:26,180 of crazy 1164 00:49:31,240 --> 00:49:28,490 well that's their educated guess they 1165 00:49:33,430 --> 00:49:31,250 don't really know yeah who is there any 1166 00:49:35,470 --> 00:49:33,440 indication of who built that or how it 1167 00:49:37,390 --> 00:49:35,480 came to be there that's a very sensitive 1168 00:49:38,950 --> 00:49:37,400 subject when they get in and they get 1169 00:49:41,470 --> 00:49:38,960 into the story and they try and find out 1170 00:49:45,150 --> 00:49:41,480 who built it uh you know with with 1171 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:45,160 basically because there's also a time uh 1172 00:49:49,990 --> 00:49:47,930 would he call it history of the world in 1173 00:49:51,580 --> 00:49:50,000 holographic form there I think there's a 1174 00:49:53,350 --> 00:49:51,590 time device in there they have normally 1175 00:49:55,240 --> 00:49:53,360 described it but they do go there's 1176 00:49:57,220 --> 00:49:55,250 three tunnels in there one of which goes 1177 00:49:59,080 --> 00:49:57,230 to Egypt and underneath the Giza Plateau 1178 00:50:00,790 --> 00:49:59,090 they find a device which enables you to 1179 00:50:02,579 --> 00:50:00,800 travel in time with your consciousness 1180 00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:02,589 not with your physical body 1181 00:50:06,509 --> 00:50:04,569 and when they get to that subject of who 1182 00:50:10,229 --> 00:50:06,519 invented this stuff it gets very touchy 1183 00:50:11,700 --> 00:50:10,239 uh it's like a book or a movie they've 1184 00:50:13,140 --> 00:50:11,710 done in sci-fi called River world when 1185 00:50:15,180 --> 00:50:13,150 you get to the Masters of the world 1186 00:50:19,529 --> 00:50:15,190 they become shadowy and they don't want 1187 00:50:21,180 --> 00:50:19,539 you to know any more than the guy who's 1188 00:50:22,950 --> 00:50:21,190 running the haunted house that you're in 1189 00:50:24,359 --> 00:50:22,960 you know when you're a kid wants you to 1190 00:50:25,979 --> 00:50:24,369 know what the tricks are you know and 1191 00:50:27,209 --> 00:50:25,989 he's you know he's he's playing games 1192 00:50:29,279 --> 00:50:27,219 you know you're not you're not getting 1193 00:50:32,519 --> 00:50:29,289 to see behind the scenes there's an 1194 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:32,529 orchestration going on there that was 1195 00:50:36,779 --> 00:50:34,450 hard to penetrate with regard to who 1196 00:50:38,459 --> 00:50:36,789 built it well let's talk a little bit 1197 00:50:40,289 --> 00:50:38,469 more about the the content of this 1198 00:50:42,450 --> 00:50:40,299 chamber I mean it's for people who 1199 00:50:45,359 --> 00:50:42,460 haven't heard it that the idea that 1200 00:50:48,259 --> 00:50:45,369 there's a piece of equipment there that 1201 00:50:50,849 --> 00:50:48,269 will holographically show you DNA of 1202 00:50:52,890 --> 00:50:50,859 yourself hybrids with other species I 1203 00:50:54,420 --> 00:50:52,900 mean that's pretty fascinating stuff is 1204 00:50:56,479 --> 00:50:54,430 there any other details about that you 1205 00:50:59,329 --> 00:50:56,489 can give us was any uh was there any 1206 00:51:03,620 --> 00:50:59,339 anything extrapolated from seeing 1207 00:51:07,529 --> 00:51:03,630 non-human DNA I have to tell you that 1208 00:51:12,089 --> 00:51:07,539 that book which the incident happens in 1209 00:51:14,190 --> 00:51:12,099 2003 that book was written from a point 1210 00:51:16,349 --> 00:51:14,200 about six weeks after the opening of the 1211 00:51:18,269 --> 00:51:16,359 chamber so that's about all the 1212 00:51:22,579 --> 00:51:18,279 information were offered is about six 1213 00:51:24,900 --> 00:51:22,589 weeks of intense investigation which was 1214 00:51:26,819 --> 00:51:24,910 relayed what the author was allowed to 1215 00:51:31,049 --> 00:51:26,829 relay into the book because he has a 1216 00:51:33,809 --> 00:51:31,059 sensor and that so he didn't tell us too 1217 00:51:36,809 --> 00:51:33,819 much most of the book is about the 1218 00:51:38,459 --> 00:51:36,819 political infighting and manipulation 1219 00:51:40,170 --> 00:51:38,469 into the into the background of Caesar 1220 00:51:42,059 --> 00:51:40,180 Brad who's the one who opens up the 1221 00:51:45,059 --> 00:51:42,069 chamber he allows writers Cinemark to 1222 00:51:48,930 --> 00:51:45,069 come in he hand selects him to to write 1223 00:51:50,910 --> 00:51:48,940 this story and people in Romania will 1224 00:51:54,809 --> 00:51:50,920 sometimes have very heated opinions of 1225 00:51:57,890 --> 00:51:54,819 whether this whether this chamber exists 1226 00:52:00,569 --> 00:51:57,900 in this reality or in another reality 1227 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:00,579 but their their opinions are always too 1228 00:52:03,779 --> 00:52:02,410 heated for my liking in other words they 1229 00:52:05,370 --> 00:52:03,789 may be right or they may be wrong but I 1230 00:52:07,559 --> 00:52:05,380 don't think that he opinions should be 1231 00:52:08,660 --> 00:52:07,569 so heated I I don't have a heated 1232 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:08,670 opinion about it 1233 00:52:13,499 --> 00:52:11,410 there is the second book Transylvanian 1234 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:13,509 moonrise gives a lot of corroborated 1235 00:52:18,069 --> 00:52:15,890 information in terms of newspaper 1236 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:18,079 articles and people that wrote into the 1237 00:52:23,529 --> 00:52:20,930 editor corroborating what had happened 1238 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:23,539 we don't know exactly but the exact DNA 1239 00:52:28,990 --> 00:52:27,410 applications I'm kind of zeroing in this 1240 00:52:32,130 --> 00:52:29,000 happened in Atlantic Ron this summer and 1241 00:52:35,259 --> 00:52:32,140 I want to get more information I believe 1242 00:52:38,650 --> 00:52:35,269 some of the most important things that 1243 00:52:41,380 --> 00:52:38,660 might be gleaned from that chamber if I 1244 00:52:43,750 --> 00:52:41,390 don't think they've done it is the 24th 1245 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:43,760 gene pair the so-called 24th gene pair 1246 00:52:49,839 --> 00:52:47,210 which human beings had 25 23 gene pair 1247 00:52:54,279 --> 00:52:49,849 right according to sound biological 1248 00:52:57,819 --> 00:52:54,289 theories there was once 24 and it's my 1249 00:53:00,900 --> 00:52:57,829 hypothesis that when that separate women 1250 00:53:03,730 --> 00:53:00,910 when they fused that it lessened the 1251 00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:03,740 ability of mankind and if we want to 1252 00:53:10,269 --> 00:53:06,730 take it one step further the ability to 1253 00:53:12,279 --> 00:53:10,279 change morphogenesis in other words 1254 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:12,289 changed shape-shift now there was a 1255 00:53:17,620 --> 00:53:15,890 doctor actually he invited me to come 1256 00:53:20,259 --> 00:53:17,630 out at this campfire two o'clock in the 1257 00:53:22,630 --> 00:53:20,269 morning it's a very that this just this 1258 00:53:26,140 --> 00:53:22,640 summer and he's and so they were they've 1259 00:53:27,279 --> 00:53:26,150 just invited me to come out and because 1260 00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:27,289 I was there they're going to speak in 1261 00:53:30,220 --> 00:53:28,730 English normally they'd speak in 1262 00:53:31,990 --> 00:53:30,230 Romanian and it was dark there was no 1263 00:53:34,690 --> 00:53:32,000 campfires but we couldn't get the wood 1264 00:53:35,950 --> 00:53:34,700 so we're like out there and they say 1265 00:53:38,099 --> 00:53:35,960 well we're going to talk about the 1266 00:53:39,759 --> 00:53:38,109 Ascension of the human being a 1267 00:53:42,279 --> 00:53:39,769 transcendence of the human being 1268 00:53:44,259 --> 00:53:42,289 incisive will I started telling him 1269 00:53:47,410 --> 00:53:44,269 about book two the Transylvanian 1270 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:47,420 moonrise which goes into the longevity 1271 00:53:54,339 --> 00:53:49,490 of living for hundreds or thousands of 1272 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:54,349 years and out of that this doctor he's a 1273 00:53:58,569 --> 00:53:55,970 medical doctor he teaches medical 1274 00:54:00,339 --> 00:53:58,579 doctors took a very he came to my Qigong 1275 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:00,349 class he took a very strong interest in 1276 00:54:07,180 --> 00:54:04,490 this 24th gene pair and then he because 1277 00:54:08,710 --> 00:54:07,190 he understood the science of it and then 1278 00:54:10,450 --> 00:54:08,720 we found this young girl and who is 1279 00:54:12,339 --> 00:54:10,460 studying biology she's saying biology 1280 00:54:14,589 --> 00:54:12,349 she says like I think she's just 1281 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:14,599 starting college and I started telling 1282 00:54:18,970 --> 00:54:17,210 her about the tree of life and DNA and 1283 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:18,980 she got interested and then she kind of 1284 00:54:24,039 --> 00:54:22,130 had this real scientific sort of 1285 00:54:26,019 --> 00:54:24,049 solution that impressed the doctor so 1286 00:54:27,519 --> 00:54:26,029 we're going to try and get that I'm not 1287 00:54:27,859 --> 00:54:27,529 going to go into the biology of it now 1288 00:54:30,230 --> 00:54:27,869 because 1289 00:54:31,970 --> 00:54:30,240 want him to explain it to me in concise 1290 00:54:33,710 --> 00:54:31,980 language so I don't have to go in and 1291 00:54:37,579 --> 00:54:33,720 he'll understand it more clearly and 1292 00:54:39,650 --> 00:54:37,589 it's basically there is a scientific 1293 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:39,660 plausibility but between what we're 1294 00:54:45,319 --> 00:54:41,249 saying here to go into the deeper 1295 00:54:47,089 --> 00:54:45,329 science of it there and I said you know 1296 00:54:50,029 --> 00:54:47,099 once we do this we got to be careful 1297 00:54:51,259 --> 00:54:50,039 that you know maybe we're announcing a 1298 00:54:52,430 --> 00:54:51,269 discovery because somebody might else 1299 00:54:53,539 --> 00:54:52,440 might have discovered it you know it's 1300 00:54:56,749 --> 00:54:53,549 like these things happen simultaneously 1301 00:54:59,779 --> 00:54:56,759 as consciousness moves forward but the 1302 00:55:05,960 --> 00:54:59,789 point I was saying about about this is 1303 00:55:10,039 --> 00:55:05,970 very DNA driven and it's uh what it's 1304 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:10,049 the morphogenesis of life it's changing 1305 00:55:14,390 --> 00:55:12,930 so life is changing we see life we don't 1306 00:55:17,420 --> 00:55:14,400 have the same disease as we had in the 1307 00:55:19,910 --> 00:55:17,430 50s that's not all because of 1308 00:55:23,319 --> 00:55:19,920 vaccinations just life changes diseases 1309 00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:23,329 change life is constantly changing so 1310 00:55:28,220 --> 00:55:26,249 what could be come out of this Dean if I 1311 00:55:29,870 --> 00:55:28,230 was going into that DNA bank and had 1312 00:55:33,259 --> 00:55:29,880 access to it I'd start asking these 1313 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:33,269 questions and I'd certainly like to have 1314 00:55:38,029 --> 00:55:35,249 somebody who's more bursted in 1315 00:55:41,390 --> 00:55:38,039 biological terms than I am to be with me 1316 00:55:43,130 --> 00:55:41,400 to like this doctor everything who gets 1317 00:55:45,140 --> 00:55:43,140 it you know it's like people a lot of 1318 00:55:47,870 --> 00:55:45,150 their their scientists don't have the 1319 00:55:51,739 --> 00:55:47,880 prejudice that many of our scientists 1320 00:55:54,229 --> 00:55:51,749 were are still suffer from you know this 1321 00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:54,239 so what they've done with it to answer 1322 00:55:59,210 --> 00:55:57,210 your original question I don't know part 1323 00:56:01,700 --> 00:55:59,220 of me thinks that some of the best part 1324 00:56:03,890 --> 00:56:01,710 is gone into neglect but I don't know 1325 00:56:06,829 --> 00:56:03,900 that Oh that'd be a shame I don't know 1326 00:56:09,710 --> 00:56:06,839 that saying is you see or it's been 1327 00:56:14,089 --> 00:56:09,720 sequestrated and only in secret sectors 1328 00:56:17,329 --> 00:56:14,099 uh what's but it's this is the infinite 1329 00:56:21,759 --> 00:56:17,339 potential of life itself and the human 1330 00:56:27,859 --> 00:56:21,769 mind so even the idea of this concept is 1331 00:56:30,589 --> 00:56:27,869 is something that we look forward to 1332 00:56:32,059 --> 00:56:30,599 just as when they did the rocket to the 1333 00:56:35,900 --> 00:56:32,069 moon 1334 00:56:39,229 --> 00:56:35,910 that was a dream when I was a kid in the 1335 00:56:40,970 --> 00:56:39,239 1950s going up in 1969 we had a man on 1336 00:56:45,410 --> 00:56:40,980 the moon the problem with the 1337 00:56:47,540 --> 00:56:45,420 moon and the space program it's all 1338 00:56:49,609 --> 00:56:47,550 under censorship and what goes on out 1339 00:56:51,890 --> 00:56:49,619 there they don't tell us everything so 1340 00:56:54,130 --> 00:56:51,900 it's all it's all again it's censorship 1341 00:56:58,280 --> 00:56:54,140 which David Anderson has said is the key 1342 00:56:59,990 --> 00:56:58,290 component in modern warfare it is that's 1343 00:57:02,510 --> 00:57:00,000 our [\h__\h] yeah it is that's what I mean 1344 00:57:03,500 --> 00:57:02,520 that's kind of why you hear all kinds of 1345 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:03,510 stories the deeper you get into 1346 00:57:09,349 --> 00:57:06,570 conspiracy you just hear wild wild 1347 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:09,359 stories and you have to say well number 1348 00:57:12,260 --> 00:57:10,890 one I know the government lies to me I 1349 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:12,270 know the government shrouds everything 1350 00:57:15,740 --> 00:57:13,890 in secrecy they have nefarious deeds 1351 00:57:18,349 --> 00:57:15,750 they have nefarious motivations that 1352 00:57:20,359 --> 00:57:18,359 opens the door to all kinds of wild 1353 00:57:22,670 --> 00:57:20,369 stories and some are true some aren't 1354 00:57:24,740 --> 00:57:22,680 it's impossible to really know because 1355 00:57:27,020 --> 00:57:24,750 no one's going to tell you the truth the 1356 00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:27,030 government is not going to give you any 1357 00:57:32,450 --> 00:57:30,090 information on it and it's like and so 1358 00:57:35,060 --> 00:57:32,460 this becomes the hallmark of the 1359 00:57:37,910 --> 00:57:35,070 individual is that he has to go in and 1360 00:57:41,410 --> 00:57:37,920 find his own answers if if you go 1361 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:41,420 looking to the government for answers 1362 00:57:47,300 --> 00:57:44,970 it's like going to a you know it's it's 1363 00:57:49,130 --> 00:57:47,310 like going to a teacher for an answer 1364 00:57:50,900 --> 00:57:49,140 about something where they've just been 1365 00:57:54,170 --> 00:57:50,910 taught to teach you pedestrian 1366 00:57:57,410 --> 00:57:54,180 information exactly there they're there 1367 00:58:00,800 --> 00:57:57,420 to control and handle the population not 1368 00:58:02,540 --> 00:58:00,810 necessarily to benefit the individual on 1369 00:58:03,980 --> 00:58:02,550 these levels so you have to go in and 1370 00:58:06,020 --> 00:58:03,990 ask you so you have to learn how to ask 1371 00:58:11,390 --> 00:58:06,030 yourself questions and get your own 1372 00:58:14,510 --> 00:58:11,400 answers as opposed even by getting the 1373 00:58:16,310 --> 00:58:14,520 answers from books books will help you 1374 00:58:18,380 --> 00:58:16,320 and you can decide whether you're likely 1375 00:58:20,390 --> 00:58:18,390 information or not it's it's that you 1376 00:58:22,670 --> 00:58:20,400 just can't think and answers from a book 1377 00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:22,680 without inspecting it yourself of course 1378 00:58:26,450 --> 00:58:24,690 and something else I did want to ask you 1379 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:26,460 about is you know you had mentioned 1380 00:58:32,180 --> 00:58:28,650 briefly that another part of that 1381 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:32,190 chamber is an area that gives you the 1382 00:58:36,380 --> 00:58:34,530 content of the history of the world and 1383 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:36,390 I've heard you describe before that it 1384 00:58:41,359 --> 00:58:38,330 comes from an individual's perspective 1385 00:58:42,859 --> 00:58:41,369 but I mean is there anything many more 1386 00:58:44,060 --> 00:58:42,869 details about that you can give the 1387 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:44,070 people because that's pretty interesting 1388 00:58:47,930 --> 00:58:46,050 too it's a bio resident in other words 1389 00:58:49,580 --> 00:58:47,940 all the devices that are described in 1390 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:49,590 these books of bio resonance so if you 1391 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:51,210 sit in the chair to see the history of 1392 00:58:54,589 --> 00:58:52,410 the world it will be different than what 1393 00:58:57,529 --> 00:58:54,599 I see it will be different than 1394 00:58:59,029 --> 00:58:57,539 what the girl down the street sees would 1395 00:59:00,589 --> 00:58:59,039 be different than our parents would see 1396 00:59:02,870 --> 00:59:00,599 if they were there everybody has a 1397 00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:02,880 different perspective so it's bio 1398 00:59:10,069 --> 00:59:07,170 resident now this is very much akin to a 1399 00:59:13,249 --> 00:59:10,079 hallucinogenic principal whereas if you 1400 00:59:15,140 --> 00:59:13,259 take a hallucinogenic it's going to be a 1401 00:59:18,380 --> 00:59:15,150 different experience than I have if 1402 00:59:20,450 --> 00:59:18,390 we're both geared towards history and 1403 00:59:22,069 --> 00:59:20,460 we're both in separate chairs like that 1404 00:59:23,900 --> 00:59:22,079 Clockwork Orange that comes out of these 1405 00:59:25,190 --> 00:59:23,910 type of experiments with this 1406 00:59:28,749 --> 00:59:25,200 experiments that who were Clockwork 1407 00:59:31,279 --> 00:59:28,759 Orange the movie was based upon the book 1408 00:59:32,839 --> 00:59:31,289 you're going to get and we're steered 1409 00:59:34,279 --> 00:59:32,849 toward certain areas we're going to have 1410 00:59:36,309 --> 00:59:34,289 certain areas of commonality we're going 1411 00:59:41,299 --> 00:59:36,319 to have certain areas a difference so 1412 00:59:43,309 --> 00:59:41,309 what hallucinogenics such as LSD which 1413 00:59:46,460 --> 00:59:43,319 was used extensively in the early mind 1414 00:59:49,489 --> 00:59:46,470 controlled experiments was is a mind 1415 00:59:52,180 --> 00:59:49,499 amplifier it amplifies the mind it 1416 00:59:54,349 --> 00:59:52,190 exaggerated things it builds it up it 1417 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:54,359 it's the same thing they were doing at 1418 00:59:57,349 --> 00:59:55,650 Montauk where they had highly 1419 01:00:01,519 --> 00:59:57,359 sophisticated mind amplifiers there are 1420 01:00:03,140 --> 01:00:01,529 two different ways to a meet they're two 1421 01:00:05,299 --> 01:00:03,150 different means to an end which is to 1422 01:00:09,349 --> 01:00:05,309 amplify the consciousness now I do not 1423 01:00:11,870 --> 01:00:09,359 advocate psychotronic amplification of 1424 01:00:14,390 --> 01:00:11,880 the mind I don't advocate hallucinogenic 1425 01:00:16,819 --> 01:00:14,400 drugs all of these things can be done 1426 01:00:19,309 --> 01:00:16,829 internally they can be done internally 1427 01:00:25,279 --> 01:00:19,319 and you want to develop them on your own 1428 01:00:28,539 --> 01:00:25,289 horsepower so lucid dreaming is a good 1429 01:00:31,039 --> 01:00:28,549 practice to indulge in if one wants to 1430 01:00:33,140 --> 01:00:31,049 expand their mind do you have any tips 1431 01:00:35,269 --> 01:00:33,150 for that I've had people try to give 1432 01:00:37,339 --> 01:00:35,279 them before but lucid dreaming is one 1433 01:00:38,749 --> 01:00:37,349 thing that I've I've had it happen at 1434 01:00:40,519 --> 01:00:38,759 random one or two times 1435 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:40,529 how can you channel that how can you 1436 01:00:45,950 --> 01:00:43,650 induce that there are different ways one 1437 01:00:47,870 --> 01:00:45,960 way is to look at the details in the 1438 01:00:51,170 --> 01:00:47,880 environment like look at 30 details a 1439 01:00:55,819 --> 01:00:51,180 day like I'm looking over a hole in my 1440 01:00:59,779 --> 01:00:55,829 wall where there used to be a nail or 1441 01:01:01,309 --> 01:00:59,789 something fail yeah and and looking at 1442 01:01:04,370 --> 01:01:01,319 where a nail is sticking out in the wall 1443 01:01:06,829 --> 01:01:04,380 and and you look at 30 details in the 1444 01:01:08,059 --> 01:01:06,839 environment per day and the next thing 1445 01:01:10,069 --> 01:01:08,069 you know you'll be in your dream 1446 01:01:12,079 --> 01:01:10,079 looking at a detail and you said oh god 1447 01:01:14,989 --> 01:01:12,089 one detail I'm doing the drill oh I'm 1448 01:01:17,630 --> 01:01:14,999 away and once you become awake that's 1449 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:17,640 one way to become awake and and of 1450 01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:19,410 course it's also a Qigong practice 1451 01:01:24,739 --> 01:01:22,170 because if you learned she'd um you 1452 01:01:26,509 --> 01:01:24,749 start doing Qigong in the dream and then 1453 01:01:29,660 --> 01:01:26,519 when you start doing Qigong you're 1454 01:01:32,390 --> 01:01:29,670 trying to maintain your dream state and 1455 01:01:36,380 --> 01:01:32,400 once you maintain the dream state that's 1456 01:01:37,910 --> 01:01:36,390 challenging it's it's challenging but 1457 01:01:42,319 --> 01:01:37,920 then once you can maintain that dream 1458 01:01:44,930 --> 01:01:42,329 state then you can start to explore that 1459 01:01:48,499 --> 01:01:44,940 area of your mind but that's one simple 1460 01:01:51,319 --> 01:01:48,509 way you can also every time you look at 1461 01:01:53,569 --> 01:01:51,329 a clock in real life you can say what 1462 01:01:55,939 --> 01:01:53,579 time is it is this a dream 1463 01:01:58,699 --> 01:01:55,949 can I fly and you look at every time you 1464 01:02:01,430 --> 01:01:58,709 see a clock in your life see what time 1465 01:02:05,410 --> 01:02:01,440 is it is this a dream can I fly and that 1466 01:02:08,299 --> 01:02:05,420 can wake you right up into a lucid state 1467 01:02:10,759 --> 01:02:08,309 it's such an interesting concept that 1468 01:02:12,589 --> 01:02:10,769 our minds trick us into thinking 1469 01:02:16,370 --> 01:02:12,599 something is real and we have to 1470 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:16,380 consciously repetitiously ask ourselves 1471 01:02:20,660 --> 01:02:18,690 if it is and then one of these times 1472 01:02:22,309 --> 01:02:20,670 we're going to look around and we will 1473 01:02:24,140 --> 01:02:22,319 be in a dream but it's indistinguishable 1474 01:02:26,870 --> 01:02:24,150 from real life it's a fascinating and 1475 01:02:30,289 --> 01:02:26,880 element people don't explore dreams 1476 01:02:31,849 --> 01:02:30,299 enough it's pretty strange yeah it's 1477 01:02:35,269 --> 01:02:31,859 something you have to have a dedicated I 1478 01:02:37,339 --> 01:02:35,279 know uh there are certain substances 1479 01:02:39,799 --> 01:02:37,349 like melatonin which are supplements 1480 01:02:42,199 --> 01:02:39,809 that can help your dream state are the 1481 01:02:45,969 --> 01:02:42,209 first melatonin I took I hated I didn't 1482 01:02:48,799 --> 01:02:45,979 like it I made my dreams weird huh I 1483 01:02:51,199 --> 01:02:48,809 it'll help you sleep is you know as well 1484 01:02:53,239 --> 01:02:51,209 crazy man it's about that time that we 1485 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:53,249 wrap up but to bring this back to the 1486 01:02:56,209 --> 01:02:54,690 beginning of the show I mean one thing 1487 01:02:57,890 --> 01:02:56,219 you mentioned about that chamber and 1488 01:02:59,930 --> 01:02:57,900 Romania is that some people are are 1489 01:03:03,019 --> 01:02:59,940 debating whether it exists in this 1490 01:03:05,390 --> 01:03:03,029 reality or another and I'd heard that 1491 01:03:07,609 --> 01:03:05,400 some claims that an experiment at 1492 01:03:09,380 --> 01:03:07,619 Montauk caused our reality to split and 1493 01:03:11,209 --> 01:03:09,390 we've been living within a manufactured 1494 01:03:13,069 --> 01:03:11,219 reality since then which gets into the 1495 01:03:15,140 --> 01:03:13,079 same thing as some leading scientists 1496 01:03:17,809 --> 01:03:15,150 talk about the holographic universe and 1497 01:03:19,579 --> 01:03:17,819 simulation theory it also talks that 1498 01:03:21,289 --> 01:03:19,589 also you know relates to the control 1499 01:03:22,010 --> 01:03:21,299 matrix but what are your thoughts on 1500 01:03:23,450 --> 01:03:22,020 that what type 1501 01:03:25,610 --> 01:03:23,460 what is reality are we with an 1502 01:03:28,310 --> 01:03:25,620 artificial construct did it come out of 1503 01:03:31,100 --> 01:03:28,320 the Montauk Project or you know is all 1504 01:03:34,610 --> 01:03:31,110 that just speculation well you know 1505 01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:34,620 people like to put four theories to 1506 01:03:42,980 --> 01:03:38,250 either to try to figure stuff out or to 1507 01:03:47,420 --> 01:03:42,990 try and impress one of the other and if 1508 01:03:48,890 --> 01:03:47,430 you go back into hindu mythology the 1509 01:03:52,490 --> 01:03:48,900 whole world is an illusion 1510 01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:52,500 they call it Maya mm-hmm so it's it's 1511 01:04:00,680 --> 01:03:56,610 all illusory and even the Tibetans talk 1512 01:04:02,450 --> 01:04:00,690 about the primordial essence of 1513 01:04:05,090 --> 01:04:02,460 non-existence everything is based upon 1514 01:04:10,130 --> 01:04:05,100 non-existence this world we see is 1515 01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:10,140 fallacious so to say that Montauk is the 1516 01:04:15,890 --> 01:04:13,730 creation of an artificial reality well 1517 01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:15,900 certainly it was creating an artificial 1518 01:04:20,900 --> 01:04:18,690 reality or superimposed reality from 1519 01:04:24,170 --> 01:04:20,910 within one but yes we're all 1520 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:24,180 participants in a in a virtual reality 1521 01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:28,890 but the only reason reality is important 1522 01:04:33,740 --> 01:04:32,250 is because we have to answer to it we 1523 01:04:34,850 --> 01:04:33,750 have an answer to it if you don't eat 1524 01:04:39,980 --> 01:04:34,860 you're going to suffer 1525 01:04:43,700 --> 01:04:39,990 so we're hostage to reality because if 1526 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:43,710 we do not take responsibility for our 1527 01:04:50,810 --> 01:04:46,530 interactions with it we will experience 1528 01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:50,820 suffering so if we don't want to suffer 1529 01:04:57,620 --> 01:04:55,050 we have to pay homage to reality and we 1530 01:05:02,180 --> 01:04:57,630 may not to pay homage to a god but we 1531 01:05:06,410 --> 01:05:02,190 have to page homage to reality and one 1532 01:05:09,470 --> 01:05:06,420 of the most elusive or most challenging 1533 01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:09,480 gods in Greek mythology was Chronos or 1534 01:05:18,140 --> 01:05:16,170 we call him Saturn and Saturn was the he 1535 01:05:20,870 --> 01:05:18,150 ate all his pupils because he's time he 1536 01:05:22,730 --> 01:05:20,880 represents Chronos time so you know he 1537 01:05:24,740 --> 01:05:22,740 eats the pupils so when you get to time 1538 01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:24,750 you're going on well time we've got so 1539 01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:27,330 much time how much time do you have in a 1540 01:05:33,770 --> 01:05:30,810 physical body now one can go into the 1541 01:05:35,540 --> 01:05:33,780 precept of reincarnation and say wow I'm 1542 01:05:38,650 --> 01:05:35,550 going to reincarnate so I'll learn 1543 01:05:42,370 --> 01:05:38,660 and all this but now in this paradigm 1544 01:05:48,110 --> 01:05:42,380 all these this literature that I've been 1545 01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:48,120 writing and publishing is telling us by 1546 01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:50,250 the phenomena or stories encountered 1547 01:05:57,980 --> 01:05:55,170 that maybe we don't have to stop we 1548 01:06:00,380 --> 01:05:57,990 don't have to die in the same way we 1549 01:06:04,250 --> 01:06:00,390 thought we would die this is giving us 1550 01:06:07,580 --> 01:06:04,260 hope and helping us have a new paradigm 1551 01:06:10,990 --> 01:06:07,590 so it's it's it's life extension or the 1552 01:06:14,540 --> 01:06:11,000 concept of life extension the chi-gong 1553 01:06:17,330 --> 01:06:14,550 supplements that because you know your 1554 01:06:18,980 --> 01:06:17,340 organs are what basically cause old-age 1555 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:18,990 they fail well if they're getting if 1556 01:06:23,330 --> 01:06:20,450 you're breathing with all of your lungs 1557 01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:23,340 which feed the Argan each lobe of the 1558 01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:24,810 lung feeds in organ you're not going to 1559 01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:26,730 die if you're breathing most people 1560 01:06:30,350 --> 01:06:28,650 aren't breathing they're breathing like 1561 01:06:31,910 --> 01:06:30,360 with five ten percent of their lung 1562 01:06:33,530 --> 01:06:31,920 capacity if they're doing a lot to doing 1563 01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:33,540 ten percent and this just doesn't work 1564 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:36,930 so you can elongate your life through 1565 01:06:41,990 --> 01:06:39,210 practical means of breathing you can 1566 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:42,000 also but there's also these alchemical 1567 01:06:45,830 --> 01:06:43,290 principles which are the subject of 1568 01:06:50,090 --> 01:06:45,840 Transylvania moonrise which suggests an 1569 01:06:51,980 --> 01:06:50,100 even longer capacity to live so that's 1570 01:06:53,570 --> 01:06:51,990 so artificial reality all fits into that 1571 01:06:55,580 --> 01:06:53,580 construct but I'm saying is because 1572 01:06:57,410 --> 01:06:55,590 somebody says this is a reality that 1573 01:06:59,920 --> 01:06:57,420 reality it's much more complicated than 1574 01:07:02,570 --> 01:06:59,930 just somebody saying at that but yes 1575 01:07:04,430 --> 01:07:02,580 it's all tied to an artificial reality 1576 01:07:05,690 --> 01:07:04,440 that we're creating then we have to 1577 01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:05,700 answer to I hope that answered your 1578 01:07:11,030 --> 01:07:07,650 question yeah yeah of course 1579 01:07:12,620 --> 01:07:11,040 um well man it's kind of about that time 1580 01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:12,630 I really appreciate you coming on to 1581 01:07:16,250 --> 01:07:14,490 talk about this stuff with me I mean 1582 01:07:18,170 --> 01:07:16,260 we've been kind of all over the place 1583 01:07:21,350 --> 01:07:18,180 Montauk the Romanian Hall of Records 1584 01:07:22,670 --> 01:07:21,360 chi-gong lucid dreams but that's the way 1585 01:07:24,530 --> 01:07:22,680 I like it you know I like it to be a 1586 01:07:25,910 --> 01:07:24,540 casual conversation some interesting 1587 01:07:28,790 --> 01:07:25,920 stuff comes out that I didn't think I 1588 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:28,800 hear about that's great um so yeah thank 1589 01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:30,210 you for having me the website again is 1590 01:07:35,210 --> 01:07:33,090 sky books usa.com anybody would like any 1591 01:07:37,460 --> 01:07:35,220 of the books of course medical animus on 1592 01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:37,470 Amazon and many bookstores across the 1593 01:07:41,690 --> 01:07:39,450 country yeah and is there anything that 1594 01:07:43,070 --> 01:07:41,700 though anything you want to elaborate on 1595 01:07:45,740 --> 01:07:43,080 and that you're working on next that 1596 01:07:49,100 --> 01:07:45,750 people should be the next ready for the 1597 01:07:50,540 --> 01:07:49,110 next book is called which will be out 1598 01:07:52,550 --> 01:07:50,550 sometime next year the white bath the 1599 01:07:56,350 --> 01:07:52,560 alchemy of writing which will I'll have 1600 01:07:58,760 --> 01:07:56,360 this story that propelled all of this 1601 01:08:01,850 --> 01:07:58,770 happening and then where it leads which 1602 01:08:04,340 --> 01:08:01,860 will discuss my adventures in Romanian 1603 01:08:07,100 --> 01:08:04,350 this year and I will be also making a 1604 01:08:08,660 --> 01:08:07,110 shorter report in the newsletter montt 1605 01:08:11,300 --> 01:08:08,670 articles which is available through the 1606 01:08:14,660 --> 01:08:11,310 website if anybody would like it I also 1607 01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:14,670 have a blog which I don't I don't I'm 1608 01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:16,290 not too active on the blog but it does 1609 01:08:20,390 --> 01:08:17,970 have a lot of interesting information on 1610 01:08:23,810 --> 01:08:20,400 there and I do try to answer questions 1611 01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:23,820 on it it's called digital montauk calm 1612 01:08:28,430 --> 01:08:27,090 digital man calm excellent man well when 1613 01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:28,440 that next book comes out hopefully 1614 01:08:31,870 --> 01:08:30,210 you'll come back and talk to us about it 1615 01:08:34,340 --> 01:08:31,880 it's fascinating stuff